Rafael Thundercat

What actually is Israel?

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57 minutes ago, Elliott said:

So, why are the Ashkenazi there then? Why not Utah, or Poland? When did hamas attack Poland?

there isnt unified idiology here exept for just coming to israel. each person have their own worldview.
why you say ashkenazi? what about sfaradi? mizrahi? ethiopians? there are many jewish groups here. 

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26 minutes ago, TheSomeBody said:

there isnt unified idiology here exept for just coming to israel. each person have their own worldview.
why you say ashkenazi? what about sfaradi? mizrahi? ethiopians? there are many jewish groups here. 

Because the only reason Europe supports Israel, why genocide occurs, is because of the Ashkenazi population. 

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13 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Because the only reason Europe supports Israel, why genocide occurs, is because of the Ashkenazi population. 

most of the right wing is mizrahi jews.... check your sources 

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17 minutes ago, TheSomeBody said:

most of the right wing is mizrahi jews.... check your sources 

Remove the Europe relationship and the ability to genocide leaves as well.

"Benjamin Netanyahu is an Israeli politician of Ashkenazi Jewish descent, born to Polish-born parents in 1949"

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It’s a colonial state largely founded by WWII refugees and wealthy Jews, justified by grievances and abuse suffered from the holocaust and it’s really driven home by a biblical fairy tale about how it was promised to them by god. It’s layered in its justifications but the narrative isn’t so complex. It was founded on land that does hold historical importance to Jews but this land also has had natives living there prior to the modern Israeli which is a mix of Jews form other middle eastern countries but mostly European Jews. The natives there. Palestinas lived there for hundreds of years and genealogically have more in common with the original Jews there than the European Jews who were native to Europe for over 800 years that came in and took the land by force while it was in a stateless strange period of being a British colony. If the place had not been colonized and all the Jewish refugees either stayed in Europe post ww2 or went to the USA it probably would have modernized into a modern state called Palestine similar to Syria or Iraq. 

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5 minutes ago, Lyubov said:

. If the place had not been colonized and all the Jewish refugees either stayed in Europe post ww2 or went to the USA it probably would have modernized into a modern state called Palestine similar to Syria or Iraq. 

I think that if European Israel never existed, it's possible Iran would still be a democracy, and the middle east would be more like Turkiye. And we'd be less dependant on oil already.

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1 hour ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

Interesting video about why white skin

 

 

The irony of Israel's current view toward Palestinian revolt, and why Rome originally removed jews from Judea

 

"Rome's removal of Jews from Judea was primarily a response to persistent, intense rebellions (notably 70 AD and 132–136 AD), which Romans viewed as a threat to imperial security and authority. After crushing these revolts, Romans enacted mass enslavement, executions, and bans from Jerusalem—particularly after the Bar Kochba revolt. "

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Watch this. 

for sure there is more to this Israel shit than we know. For sure.

Whole Depoiment here

 

 

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🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation.

 

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https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-730393

Does Israel still discriminate against Mizrahi Jews?

Feb 4, 2023 — “There is a clear divide that is systematically maintained in all areas of life, between ultra-Orthodox Jews of Mizrahi and Ashkenazi descent.

When the High Court of Justice recently overturned the ministerial appointment of haredi Shas leader Arye Deri, a crowd of hundreds of Shas supporters gathered outside his home to express their dismay over the ruling. 

Among the chants were claims that the High Court judges – all Jews of Ashkenazi descent – were once again discriminating against Jews of Mizrahi descent."

 

 

"Benjamin Netanyahu's father was born Benzion Mileikowsky. He was a Polish-born Jewish historian who later changed his family's last name to Netanyahu after immigrating to Palestine in 1920."

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9 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

Interesting video about why white skin

 

 

European Jews are genetically closer to modern Europeans than to native middle eastern people. The craziest part is that the native Jews from the Middle East that were in Palestine, an established minority of Jews that has been there for ages and surrounding countries’ Jews, the ones who could truthfully say they and their ancestors have lived in the Middle East for centuries, when they went to Israel they  experienced racism for being dark (actually form the Middle East). Zionism was actually just as alien to them as it was to the Muslims. European Jews haven’t been in the Middle East since the Roman empire, they are Europeans today. 

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