Trump is God

[cetus]

12 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

it's like having a 300 hp Kawasaki

I had to fact check that. You're right. The H2R

[cetus]

26 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

but that's what the bike is for. We have a very sophisticated device, then what I see is that using it as deep as you can is a must

Do you see the same with nuclear weapons?

[Lunatic]

31 minutes ago, Willy Phallicus said:

You can't have it both ways.

    “In April of this year, members of Le Refuge, a Buddhist group located near Marseilles, invited me to lead a ten-day retreat on the topic of the skillful use of desire on the path of Buddhist practice. This is a topic around which there is a great deal of confusion, so I thought it would be a useful theme for the retreat. Because the Buddha identified three types of craving as the origin of suffering and stress, many people have jumped to the conclusion that he condemned all forms of desire. However, he actually taught that skillful desires—aimed at abandoning the causes of suffering and developing mental qualities conducive to the end of suffering—play a crucial role in the path to the ultimate happiness of nibbāna, or unbinding. In fact, the desire to put an end to suffering plays such a dominant role in guiding the path that all the Buddha’s other teachings, including his teachings about the self and the world, are designed to serve that desire and to achieve its aim: a happiness so great that it puts an end to the need for desires of any kind.”
    “Desires for the End of Desire”, 18 March 2026, https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/DesiresForEndOfDesire/Section0003.html.
    I have not read the book.
    “And, in the end, you have to get rid of your desire for God. Then you are It!” (Levenson 1993, 113)

[cetus]

6 minutes ago, Lunatic said:

many people have jumped to the conclusion that he condemned all forms of desire.

 I'll have to check that out.

Is desire to end all desire a desire? So- to- speak.

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[Lunatic]

1 hour ago, cetus said:

 I'll have to check that out.

Is desire to end all desire a desire? So- to- speak.

    Yes.
    The thought, e.g., “I am angry at Paul because he lied to me.” is brought to inquiry as “Paul lied to me,” “Paul shouldn't lie to me,” “I don't want Paul to lie to me,” etc. (“Isolating One-liners to Take to Inquiry”, https://thework.com/part-three/)
    “I don't want Paul to lie to me.”
    _Is it true that I don't want Paul to lie to me (= Is it true that I have a desire for Paul not to lie to me)?_
    “Once you see the truth, the thought lets go of _you_, not the other way around.” (Katie and Mitchell 2021, 152)
    So the desire for Paul not to lie to you metaphorically lets go of you.
    Then you move to the next stressful thought.
    Last, as Lester Levenson puts it, you let go of the desire to wake up.
    In other words, concurrent desires exist, and you let go of the unskillful ones.
    The skillful desire is wanting to end stress and the unskillful one is wanting Paul not to lie to you.
    
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    “Anyone who’s seeking happiness is seeking the Self. There are two kinds of people in the world: those who are consciously seeking God, happiness, the Self, and those who are unconsciously seeking them.” (Levenson 1993, chap. 45, 343)
    So you consciously seek God by letting go of those desires that lead away from God.

[Breakingthewall]

8 hours ago, cetus said:

I had to fact check that. You're right. The H2R

😅yeah sounds insane

8 hours ago, cetus said:

Do you see the same with nuclear weapons?

The usefulness of nuclear weapons is deterrent, but to achieve this, they had to be used at least once. Now, thanks to nuclear weapons, we do not live in a state of total war; therefore, we are using them.

Edited 14 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

16 hours ago, Lunatic said:

Because the Buddha identified three types of craving as the origin of suffering and stress, many people have jumped to the conclusion that he condemned all forms of desire. However, he actually taught that skillful desires—aimed at abandoning the causes of suffering and developing mental qualities conducive to the end of suffering

Sure, Buddha had a very strong desire, that's why he started his path.

But, how did Buddha come to the conclusion that there is a wheel of reincarnations, and that according to your behavior and energetic configuration, you are reincarnated into one thing or another, until you reach nirvana?

[cetus]

10 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Now, thanks to nuclear weapons, we do not live in a state of total war; therefore, we are using them.

I see what you're saying, and it makes sense as a deterrent. But that could all change in an instant. Eventually some country is going to find their back against the wall and as a last resort have no other option but to press the launch button -metaphorically speaking.

Edited 4 hours ago by cetus

[cetus]

10 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

😅yeah sounds insane

Do you ride such a "crotch rocket" to its full potential? If so, please be careful. We wouldn't want to have to change your name to Dentinthewall. 

[tvaeli]

But is he the only God?

• God's reincarnations have made many races and human original seeds, from very primitive to very advanced.
• Most typically, God's past reincarnations who are watching with oracles provide life cycles to their own creation, which understands it like them.
• Earliest Gods can resemble an evil pantheon, and are perhaps the ones crusaders fought with, or Vikings told that "Gods have war in heaven".
• Each God is God of their own reality: business relations which appear when merging realities of time and space, recreating echoes of their past presence or feeling bad if all creatures do not exist even if out of nostalgy.
• Naturally, God who is not able for time travel, intertime connection, travel in quantum potential field - where it can well find other "reincarnations of whole reality", and each might not be God.
• In all this sense, "God" could also be the Union of all such Gods.
• Power of Creation of God might be unlimited, but compared to other gods it makes relations between realities critical, and kind of melts time and space.

Modern times have blurred conception of God, their "uniqueness" and other powers even more:

• People are capable of many things, which God was responsible of before; such as creating themselves out of nothing: as physical laws become more subtle, thermodynamic entropy connects things, the potential field and logic has growing effects and while it might be useful to work along with whole reality, it's much more personal story: while following reality might be part of it, one single person can be more and more sure on themselves.
• For example archetype of God can change when whole reality is changing: what resembles this whole reality locally. This can make it volatile which actual characters of our lives resemble God or go united with will of Universe.
• Becoming same of will of Universe makes you kind of compatible, convergent to some definition of God: there are many definitions and there are also things such as Avatars - altough kind of fully representing God, and emanating from their energy, they are not necessarily what God is living through; he might have potential to live those lives, but lose interest as soon as they are invented.

[tvaeli]

There is a striking probability that our leaders are gods: they might be not gods of current reality, but bring the faces which have invented different aspects of humanity; there is the complex of "me" and "you", for example whether God in Lotus stance would feel he is the whole reality, but then would the whole reality think they would be God?

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, cetus said:

Do you ride such a "crotch rocket" to its full potential? If so, please be careful. We wouldn't want to have to change your name to Dentinthewall. 

19 hours ago, Lunatic said:

 

No, I've never liked speed at all. I find it a kind of artificial, egoic, and dumb risk. 

Anyway, I find some races , for example that in Isle of Man , amazing. What kind of madness is that? I can't understand that psychology 

1 hour ago, cetus said:

see what you're saying, and it makes sense as a deterrent. But that could all change in an instant. Eventually some country is going to find their back against the wall and as a last resort have no other option but to press the launch button -metaphorically speaking.

It's always a possibility, but without them, the USSR and NATO would have fought a war that would probably have dwarfed World War II, so for now the balance is favorable

Edited 3 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[Terell Kirby]

1 hour ago, tvaeli said:

But is he the only God?

When God imagines an orange monstrosity, we are left with Donald Trump. This monstrosity is Love incarnate.