Nivsch

The discussion in Israel during the war with Iran

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@Karmadhi I assume this is more personal and psychological than something national. Some people care more about reputation, others about morality, and mostly I believe it is a mix of the two. Because if you believe in something morally, you also identify with it as part of your reputation.

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Latest Israeli voices ☕️

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Shoutout from Israel 🏖

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@Nivsch Dan Adin Dan Adin seems to know what is up

Some sanity at last...

Wish he was the norm there...

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First week of June in Israel 🍉🌊

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@Raze By the way he is a great journalist from the mainstream media here (Channel 12 News)

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Bibi seems to be flat out ignoring Trump now.

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🗞☕️

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🗞☕️🏳️‍🌈

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How’s the discussion this morning?

Seems majority of Israelis are frustrated at Trump for this supposed deal if it is to go through and not be derailed (by Israel’s attempts).

Too self absorbed and entitled to realise anothers point of view or the costs to the US/global economy if Hormuz were to remain closed for Israel’s maximalist goals of crippling Iran.

Whilst there is polarisation on domestic politics there is much less so on their view towards Iran and Palestinians for that matter being “problems” needing to be dealt with.

Even Yair Lapid (the opposition) in his latest X post isn’t complaining about the objectives he shares with Netenyahu - but that Netenyahu simply failed to achieve them : https://x.com/yairlapid/status/2066097439048708132?s=46

“3. He failed to convince the Americans to bomb Iran's oil and energy facilities and did not close the matter in advance.“

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”9.He did not take into account the possibility of bombing the energy facilities of Gulf states and failed to leverage the ties with the Gulf states to bring them into joint combat.

10. He failed to rally global public opinion for a renewed war between democracies and a fundamentalist dictatorship“

Basically - he failed to commit war crimes (energy infrastructure) and drag gulf neighbours into a fight to only get even more fucked up. Then the classic “democracy vs authoritarian” rhetoric lol

If Irans a fundamentalist dictatorship then Israel and US are fundamentalist democracies. Saying your a democracy also isn’t the automatic win liberals think it is if the demos (people of that democracy) are too narrow minded geopolitically to the point they don’t realise how hawkish they come across to the world outside.

Let’s not forget that  the US also isn’t happy with the outcome.

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On 6/13/2026 at 5:51 PM, Nivsch said:

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The irony is it shows the opposite, it was the mainstream center and left who supported and enabled Netanyahu in every disaster. Lapid supported the Gaza blockade and Abraham accords that lead to Oct 7, supported the Iran war which he now calls a strategic failure.

Gideon Levy dedicated his life to exposing the crimes of the occupation he enabled. He is the one who looked past petty political squabbles and sought humanity and tried to stop it before it lead to more disaster. Not only did the opposition  in israel ignore and maintain it, they still don’t process the unsustainable situation.

This is why netanyahu always wins, he doesn’t have actual opposition.

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