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Declining birth rate

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36 minutes ago, enchanted said:

Oh I see . I totally misunderstood you. That's awesome dude!

Yeah but its not "awesome", it's tragic and desperate. 

I'm having 40-400 children and pushing them all to start incubating by age 16, engineering a spiralling domino of rabid human genesis 

I'm an extrovert at heart anyway, I dont mind a big mansion with 400 family members

You all need to start having 5+ children NOW and save me from becoming this autistic baby batman 

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12 minutes ago, Optimized Life said:

Yeah but its not "awesome", it's tragic and desperate. 

I'm having 40-400 children and pushing them all to start incubating by age 16, engineering a spiralling domino of rabid human genesis 

I'm an extrovert at heart anyway, I dont mind a big mansion with 400 family members

You all need to start having 5+ children NOW and save me from becoming this autistic baby batman 

GM Children :D 

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On 3/10/2026 at 3:27 AM, Natasha Tori Maru said:

At the heart of it I think there needs to be some form of incentive to have kids. Whether an external incentive structure is good solution is up for debate. It just so happens external incentive structures are usually the most effective at facilitating behaviour change.

Yes, but it needs to be more structural than just money. Just money is compensating for structural disincentives.

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On 3/8/2026 at 10:01 AM, Lila9 said:

Patriarchy values hierarchy and dominance, which fuels the corrupted spirit you are talking about. People with those traits, like narcissists and psychopaths, are rewarded in such a system- unsustainable for life.

Maybe when patriarchy was “young,” about 10,000 years ago, during the transition from a more matriarchal structure to a patriarchal structure, it was more sustainable for life. There are still cultures with traces of this era that preserved some matriarchal values.

But as the dark ages came and it evolved into what we know today as neo-liberalism, it is no longer sustainable for life.

We can create something hybrid, something unique, but it requires more “stage yellow and above” individuals in positions of power.

As of today, however, we need more matriarchy.

I have idealistic and visionary qualities, so I can imagine a better world vividly. My goal is not to go to extremes for the sake of it, but to think about systems that are beneficial for all and practically resolve the problems we are dealing with, like declining birth rates.

I understand that you, like many men, may have some rejection of the word “matriarchy” because of unresolved misogyny.

But I would like to clarify that this does not mean women rule. Often, men are just afraid that women will treat them the way men have treated women for the last thousands of years. However, please refer to the work of the woman I posted earlier, and you will see that matriarchy is not about women ruling. It is simply an acknowledgment that mothers are the beginning, and that building a community around raising healthy, strong, and educated children creates a stronger and better society.

This also includes wise women and men in positions of leadership who are pro-communal and true leaders, not anti-social. It does not force women or men to conform to strict gender roles. It does not force women into motherhood but provides all the conditions necessary for those who do choose to become mothers.

It also may work better in small communities of up to 100 people rather than in bigger numbers. 

 

 

 

 

Hey Lila,


I hope you're well.


Thanks for your response.

 

When it comes to governing, I'm not sure what is "right way"

I know it helps if everyone is elevated in their knowledge, capacity for awareness, and ability to release. As in, release as a cultivated ability, taught, and shared amongst peoples, and practiced all day everyday, with relationship to all things. Being careful to watch where we are intensely identified, and to release best we can.

I've recently been thinking about the times saints and mystics came to the world and made a big difference. They are still out and about. 

Like I said, I don't look at it in terms of one or the other. I look at it as individual personal self actualization accumulating as a collective. Every system is imperfect.

On a spectrum of development, i think people start to behave with what the Taoist call "De" - natural virtue. Not contrived by law or moral systems, but a result of knowing correct action as a result of wisdom.

I think before we are there, we need systems to keep things in check. But i'm not an expert in what those systems got to be. Matriarchal or Patriarchal. Who knows. But my view is, like yours, agrees with education, love and adds release. 

And I was thinking about this yesterday. Nature is not egalitarian. I think it is our attempt to measure and categorize and control. Which has its excesses, deficiencies, and balances. 

There is no perfect answer to this question.

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I think declining fertilit rates are a sign that a country's society is heading into orange. You see, that is the stage at which women start to think about career prospects as opposed to just childbearing. Surely some couples will still have children but others will not have any, dragging down the fertility rate. You will notice that for the US, the baby boom ended with the second wave of feminism.

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