New Episode: Epistemic Responsiblity - Out Now!

[OBEler]

Is a good connection to god really worth all the sacrifices during normal day to day living?

[Cred]

Being content with being alone in a room and engaging with one thing repeatedly is not as normal as you think.

[Cred]

You need to understand that I'm not trying to gotcha you or one-up you. I'm pointing at something big that can radically change your view of the world and yourself to the better.

[Yimpa]

11 minutes ago, OBEler said:

Is a good connection to god really worth all the sacrifices during normal day to day living?

Is making Love to and as Yourself worth it? Hell yeah.

[Cred]

13 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You don't need to be neuro-divergent to be into niche things.

Truth-seeking is niche, like yo-yoing.

My claim is that there is no such thing as a neurotypical nerd

[AION]

21 minutes ago, Sincerity said:

Bro, nobody reads an AI opinion. Because who cares?

I think it gave a educated response. Better response than you would get from most people. Which part you didn't agree with?

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, Cred said:

My claim is that there is no such thing as a neurotypical nerd

When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

[CARDOZZO]

21 minutes ago, Cred said:

Being into yo-yoing is, ironically, also neurodivergent.

Ironically, I was searching for buying one Pepsi Yo-Yo last week 😂😂😂

[Cred]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

I know that you mostly do what you want and that you rarely follow any advice from other people because I'm the same way.

All that I can do is put it on your radar and hope that what I say not make you even less likely to look into it.

Try to be open-minded with the subject. Maybe one day you will see its ox tail and make the decision to follow it. 🦦

[Uddi]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

It is an honest signal.

And also, it is the fruit. The process is not just for its own sake. The process has a purpose, which is God. The point is not to do endless philosophy, the point is to transcend all that and be with God.

It is a ladder you climb to reach the roof. You are not climbing ladders just to climb ladders for the rest of your life.

True. Eventually you need to transcend the map and reach the territory and atheists are the worst at doing so.

[Leo Gura]

8 minutes ago, Cred said:

I know that you mostly do what you want and that you rarely follow any advice from other people because I'm the same way.

All that I can do is put it on your radar and hope that what I say not make you even less likely to look into it.

Try to be open-minded with the subject. Maybe one day you will see its ox tail and make the decision to follow it. 🦦

I don't know what it is you want me to do or change.

[Cred]

39 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't know what it is you want me to do or change.

Yes this is totally fair. At the end, I would like neurodiversity awareness to spread. At first, I thought that I needed to convince you of its significance but since then I realize, that I can just take responsibility and do it myself.

So don't change if you want. It's okay.

I'm realizing that I'm not concrete enough with my argumentation. I hope I'm not crossing any boundaries here but the significance of neurodivergency lies in everyday life.

I remember a story you told about upstairs neighbors that were making noise that made you go insane. If you are very unsensitive to symbolic information, this means that you are not good at filtering out sensations, it makes it hard to ignore noise. Your strong reaction is not a sign that you are too soft or some bullshit, it is because you filter less information. Filtering less information is not just a downside. It means "seeing reality as it is". It is a big predictor of truth-seeking and engaging in things like mediation. The way people filter information is through conformity. So having less of an ability to critique culture is a downside of the ability to filter information.

One other effect of seeing reality as it is, is low energy. If you always take in all the information, and you go out in the club or something, it is hard to relax, and it drains the energy a lot. 

Edited 7 hours ago by Cred

[Cred]

If you are impulsive you have the gift of creativity. People who are not impulsive have zero creative abilities and can only recycle what already exists. The downside is that you can not take orders.

Being productive for someone who is not impulsive always takes the same amount of energy, no matter the activity. If you are impulsive, doing the thing you want to do is completely effortless, even if that thing is extremely hard. Being productive without needing willpower is incomprehensible for someone who is not impulsive. The downside is that it is a lot more difficult to do things you don't want to do. Also, it is hard to plan in the future bc it is hard to control what you want

Edited 7 hours ago by Cred

[Leo Gura]

12 minutes ago, Cred said:

I would like neurodiversity awareness to spread

I don't consider myself neuro-diverse so I am not in a position to spread that message. However, I do teach that minds are very different and that genetics is very important.

[Cred]

Flirting with someone who is symbol oriented is extremely hard if you are not also sensitive to the symbol. This is because for someone who is symbol oriented, every interaction is symbolic and has no value to you if you don't care about conformity. They don't care at all about what you say. They are not really listening at all. They only care about what it means symbolically. This is why small talk exists. The only information that small talk contains is "I'm here, you have my attention, therefore you deserve to exist.".

If they say something wrong, and you point out their logical error, they interpret this as a symbol meaning "I don't like you".

For them, an interaction where you talk about interesting or important information that you want to talk about, confuses the hell out of them. For them, social interaction has nothing to do with exchanging information.

If you are dating a symbol oriented person, they will expect you to permanently affirm your relationship with some (for you) meaningless gesture. They love receiving presents that have absolutely no objective value. For me, this pointless affirming behavior is soul drenching. Also not being able to share my theories and thoughts about reality is suffocating. But what is important to understand is that for them, not receiving gestures of affirmation is also soul drenching. This is why in this kind of relationship, there can not be no conflict and frustration ever.

[Cred]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't consider myself neuro-diverse so I am not in a position to spread that message. However, I do teach that minds are very different and that genetics is very important.

How would you differentiate "a mind that is unique" from "a mind that is neurodivergent"? 

[Leo Gura]

11 minutes ago, Cred said:

How would you differentiate "a mind that is unique" from "a mind that is neurodivergent"? 

I regard neuro-divergent as conditions like ADHD, Autism, Aspergers, bipolar, etc.

That's usually what that word means.

Edited 7 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Cred]

Does anything of what I wrote about sound in some way familiar?

[Cred]

Neurodivergency is not a disorder. It is about abiliy vs tradoff. The fact that psychologists tend to focus on the tradeoffs is because there is a bias on negative psychology in society.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 hour ago, Cred said:

I remember a story you told about upstairs neighbors that were making noise that made you go insane. If you are very unsensitive to symbolic information, this means that you are not good at filtering out sensations, it makes it hard to ignore noise. Your strong reaction is not a sign that you are too soft or some bullshit, it is because you filter less information. Filtering less information is not just a downside. It means "seeing reality as it is". It is a big predictor of truth-seeking and engaging in things like mediation. The way people filter information is through conformity. So having less of an ability to critique culture is a downside of the ability to filter information.

Do you consider this to point to the individual who experiences noise disturbances as being neurodiverse?