Why everyone uses God-realization here? Instead of Self-realization?

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Razard86 said:

The word God is sufficient. You could always call it Source if you don't like the word God.

Good to see you again. Well, source and God have different connotations . God implies a creator with an intention, like, ok, I'm god and I will create humans, because I want. Humans, be! And the humans are. Source implies the foundation of the reality, of what is, and because it is, the humans are. Why? Because are a possibility, a potentiality that is happening. Without any intention, since the source is not limited. The source doesn't decide, it flows, and this flow now is you. 

[Leo Gura]

If you are questioning why it's called God then you haven't yet realized God.

[Ramasta9]

7 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Good to see you again. Well, source and God have different connotations . God implies a creator with an intention, like, ok, I'm god and I will create humans, because I want. Humans, be! And the humans are. Source implies the foundation of the reality, of what is, and because it is, the humans are. Why? Because are a possibility, a potentiality that is happening. Without any intention, since the source is not limited. The source doesn't decide, it flows, and this flow now is you. 

I've always resonated with Source best too. People continue to misunderstand this post when I have already laid out what i meant. 

[Mellowmarsh]

Something that can formulate a label knows the label. While the label in and of itself, knows nothing of itself. 
 

In the same context, a tree never asks why it is a tree. 

[Breakingthewall]

7 hours ago, Ramasta9 said:

I've always resonated with Source best too. People continue to misunderstand this post when I have already laid out what i meant. 

Even the word "source" could be confusing implying a duality: a source from which reality emerges, when reality does not emerge, it simply is.

The concept of enlightenment is extremely simple: what everything is, is being. Being is, and everything is an expression of being. Being is absolute, without opposite, since non-being is not. Forms are relative; they are relational. Enlightenment is the form that is conscious of form becoming aware of its absolute nature. When you open yourself to your nature, you realize that being is everything, and form are form. That's it, sounds anticlimactic but it isn't.

About God, you could say that the totality of the being manifested is God, and you and God are one in essence. But what you can't say is that you are god dreaming the reality and you are omnipotent, because it's not true, you are a relative form. Relative to the other forms, created by them by relationship, and creator of them by relationship . 

Edited February 21 by Breakingthewall

[gettoefl]

Best baker's dozen s-words for God:

Source, Self, Sustenance, Silence , Space, Strength, Stillness, Sameness, Safety, Stability. Support, Spirit, Supreme

Source: me

Edited February 22 by gettoefl

[Ramasta9]

[Breakingthewall]

6 hours ago, Ramasta9 said:

Zero and infinity, from an absolute perspective, are two extremes that touch to the point of becoming one. Zero is the absence of everything; in the absence of everything, there are no absolute limits that stabilize nothingness as the absence of contrast, of "something."

Infinity is the infinity of contrast, of relative change, of form. Any local relative form, if you open the perspective to infinity, blurs into zero.

Therefore, zero and infinity are the same. Relative forms are forms from a local perspective; from a total perspective, there are no forms, only being. Infinity and zero are two facets of being that are truly the same. 

[Ramasta9]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

Zero and infinity, from an absolute perspective, are two extremes that touch to the point of becoming one. Zero is the absence of everything; in the absence of everything, there are no absolute limits that stabilize nothingness as the absence of contrast, of "something."

Infinity is the infinity of contrast, of relative change, of form. Any local relative form, if you open the perspective to infinity, blurs into zero.

Therefore, zero and infinity are the same. Relative forms are forms from a local perspective; from a total perspective, there are no forms, only being. Infinity and zero are two facets of being that are truly the same. 

The image did a much better job at explaining it. All you did was complicate it, as humans continue to do, and the cycle goes on...

Edited February 23 by Ramasta9

[Carl-Richard]

8 hours ago, Ramasta9 said:

Form and emptiness. God-realization is about realizing form. Self-realization is about realizing emptiness. Unity Consciousness is when the God-realization has matured to reflect the self-realization in form.

"But that is to complicate it". It's just the case that you can refine the understanding of form.

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Ramasta9 said:

The image did a much better job at explaining it. All you did was complicate it, as humans continue to do, and the cycle goes on...

9 hours ago, Ramasta9 said:

Well, that's your opinion. Humans are complicated, things are simple, humans should be simpler, it's just your perspective. The perspective of the reality is that humans should be as their are. 

Edited February 23 by Breakingthewall

[Elliott]

The problem with God is that it implies creating, which isn't true. Infinity means everything already is, time/creation is an illusion ultimately. "God" gives scared people an emotional crutch, "God will save us!", "it's just God's plan that I (am a loser)", " i just need to reach god!". Within infinity, God exists, every God exists, no god exits, and every God exists alone and simultaneously and never,.... but ultimately, there is no creator.

Edited February 23 by Elliott

[Carl-Richard]

2 hours ago, Elliott said:

The problem with God is that it implies creating, which isn't true. Infinity means everything already is, time/creation is an illusion ultimately. "God" gives scared people an emotional crutch, "God will save us!", "it's just God's plan that I (am a loser)", " i just need to reach god!". Within infinity, God exists, every God exists, no god exits, and every God exists alone and simultaneously and never,.... but ultimately, there is no creator.

Creation is the mediation between emptiness and form.

[Elliott]

57 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Creation is the mediation between emptiness and form.

Emptiness and form are simultaneous though. Time is an illusion, not just 'clock time', but even mediation.

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, Elliott said:

The problem with God is that it implies creating, which isn't true.

You are creating every second.

[Elliott]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

You are creating every second.

Every second already is and always has been, and never was and never will be.

[Uddi]

@Leo Gura can you add more clips to your clips channel? It would be nice as so I can watch specific parts I want since your videos are so long.

[Leo Gura]

14 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Every second already is and always has been, and never was and never will be.

Too pedantic.

Don't act like you don't understand what creation is. You aren't that dumb.

12 minutes ago, Uddi said:

@Leo Gura can you add more clips to your clips channel? It would be nice as so I can watch specific parts I want since your videos are so long.

No because it costs a lot of time and money to make those clips and too few people watch them to break even.

Edited February 23 by Leo Gura

[Elliott]

40 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Too pedantic.

Don't act like you don't understand what creation is. You aren't that dumb.

Very antisocial way of trying to get me to explain it

 

Edited February 23 by Elliott

[Carl-Richard]

2 hours ago, Elliott said:

Emptiness and form are simultaneous though. Time is an illusion, not just 'clock time', but even mediation.

Emptiness and form are one yes. But yet here we are, talking about the distinction between them. If you don't want to make distinctions, "creation" is the least of your concerns.

Edited February 23 by Carl-Richard