Why everyone uses God-realization here? Instead of Self-realization?

[Ramasta9]

When you realize who you truly are or true nature, or buddha nature, whatever you wanna call it, that is called Self-realization, the realization of the True Self.

You simply realize and remember who you truly are, the fundamental nature of Consciousness. Adding "god" to it is yet another layer of mind~play i feel, and can actually keep us one step further from the truth in perpetual and potentially unconscious seeking thru disbelief. 

I feel this happens when one doesn't truly recognize who they truly are, or doesn't believe it fully and hasn't integrated where its no longer a belief but a "Knowing", hence to "Know Thyself", are so then are labelled (by our minds) "god-realization" or "god consciousness", but even before that, there was / is The Self or I AM.

So in a sense, when the mind reintegrated, it was still in a type of "shock" you could say, and hasn't merged and landed fully, rather partly or prematurely, thus the god-complex arises. This "god-complex" then becomes an issue that many are struggling with today.

This could be a good discussion, or it could go side-ways, I felt its important to touch upon, what do you think? or feel? 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 03:56 AM by Ramasta9

[Hojo]

Because God is the self. They just dont want to say it. Because people will say it cant be or its blasphemous. When the self sees itself it says I am God.

Edited yesterday at 09:06 AM by Hojo

[Ramasta9]

5 minutes ago, Hojo said:

Because God is the self. They just dont want to say it. Because people will say it cant be or its blasphemous. When the self sees itself it says I am God.

Does it? When i realized my true nature I realized "I" simply "AM" thus "I AM". The word or thought or notion of "God" was not there whatsoever? Rather what the mind fabricated afterwards in attempt to label or relate or contain it in some way, because I AM was far too simple and too ordinary.

This very simple and ordinary aspect is the "essence" of the tao and advanced zen teachings that many seem to miss. 

Man created God, the Self simply is. I feel this term "god" gets us into trouble and is far over-used, and actually not needed whatsoever.

The greatest teachers rarely used the term at all, because they touched something deeper, something I am attempting to convey here.

 

 

[Yimpa]

I AM the Infinite God, and all possibilities exist inside me.

[Elliott]

Hard to sell people something if they already have it.

[kavaris]

Hey, think of it as~Its all an experiment, right? So its all jus throwin things  at the wall to see wat sticks. And we came out of a psychedelic era, or watever the 60s/70s would be~Then we had 80s to 2000s, whatever that was. And then we get to where we are at now, where its like "How do u differentiate yourself in {insert whatever year actualized dot org started}"and so, if we take actualized (the process/action) as a type of inclination of what it *is to be, then we sortve get the next obvious thing, which is where we are sortve like, in mid-conversation about god realization. And it makes it seem like it started there now. Though i myself am always writing about it from the perspective of Beingness first. I cant speak to others, if others are doing the same, but i can say, for myself, God realization is more of like an advanced lvl, or layer upon the more simpler layers that are antecedant (to me, that is—As i view it all as having a very distinct order to these things, but thats jus me maybe, iuno) (Or maybe not an order, but like, a distinct *sequence that we follow, that we later reorder to better suite the new download of things, nd things like this)

Edited 10 hours ago by kavaris

[Wilhelm44]

On 2/14/2026 at 5:53 AM, Ramasta9 said:

When you realize who you truly are or true nature, or buddha nature, whatever you wanna call it, that is called Self-realization, the realization of the True Self.

You simply realize and remember who you truly are, the fundamental nature of Consciousness. Adding "god" to it is yet another layer of mind~play i feel, and can actually keep us one step further from the truth in perpetual and potentially unconscious seeking thru disbelief. 

I feel this happens when one doesn't truly recognize who they truly are, or doesn't believe it fully and hasn't integrated where its no longer a belief but a "Knowing", hence to "Know Thyself", are so then are labelled (by our minds) "god-realization" or "god consciousness", but even before that, there was / is The Self or I AM.

So in a sense, when the mind reintegrated, it was still in a type of "shock" you could say, and hasn't merged and landed fully, rather partly or prematurely, thus the god-complex arises. This "god-complex" then becomes an issue that many are struggling with today.

This could be a good discussion, or it could go side-ways, I felt its important to touch upon, what do you think? or feel? 

 

 

I like that, takes the pressure off and simplifies things. The word God is such a loaded term for most people.

[No1Here2c]

Semantics

[No1Here2c]

Ultimately it matters not what you label it, but whether you are conscious of it or not. Honestly I personally feel the label "God-Realization" is a better interpretive reflection of the situation from a human perspective.

[Ramasta9]

11 minutes ago, No1Here2c said:

Ultimately it matters not what you label it, but whether you are conscious of it or not. Honestly I personally feel the label "God-Realization" is a better interpretive reflection of the situation from a human perspective.

Its like the term people in the spiritual community use "higher self", by using this very term you only distance yourself and keep your "true self" away from you, always putting it upon a imaginary pedestal never to be reached because its always going to be "higher than you", you see the issue here?  Its similar with the god-complex situation i am attempting to covey. I understand what you mean, but at the same time i feel these points are still valid.