Neo Adviata / God realization / infinite, all bullshit

[Adrian colby]

17 hours ago, James123 said:

Leo is saying infinite due to his experience.

Of course right now.

Not my words, these are not claims as you or Leo's do. 

Just pointers.

Of course always now.

You actually never talk body does. When identification with body happens, it becomes so called your words.

We know all of this and have moved past it and reintegrated back into reality ( capable of relating to other). They are not claims. They are descriptions using ‘things’, ’terms’, ‘concepts’, ‘metaphors’ and ‘analogies’ from within lived experience ( tangeable) to express and communicate a thought about an ‘intangeable’ being ( not A being but being as a state of inertia/potential that cannot be known due to its indescript and undefined nature. Not a concept derived from contemplation but an actual experience of reality dissolving till it is all that is left at the foundation ) no longer playing games with others about absolutism that cannot be applied at the relative level nor can non duality be used to gaslight the dualistic experience. accepting the human experience is happening ‘now’. All the other layers are there at the same moment but while human interacting normally can point to an experience and understanding of absolute, it doesn’t speak from there even though it’s a part of and encapsulated by it. 
 

if you are not interested in communicating or discussing ‘it’ then you are simply creating ‘content’ to draw people into discussion with no other purpose but to flatten and terminate the conversation. What’s the point of that?

[Adrian colby]

15 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Goal: The driver must master the body, preventing distraction by worldly objects to reach a peaceful, purposeful destination. 
 

Final Destination > Peace, Love, Harmony & Equilibrium. Resting Light. 😊

The resting light is only half way after turning away from the objective. Once it’s realised, reintegrate into the experience to develop a harmony with everything. You don’t perpetuate turning away from the objective unless you’re trying to dissolve it. Being able to adapt to situations is part of the balance and harmony with everything. Absolute peace is only when you go back to that state. Being more fluid in the mind allows going into that state more accessible but also being at peace in varying degrees, dissolving is not always necessary. Even when you dissolve the body and world to sleep, the mind creates another body and world to experienced through. It does not always stay in an absolute state of peace. Like a vibrating string, the still string is still it but not it while ‘doing’. Plenty of people walk around claiming enlightenment and ‘floating’ through life not actually engaging but avoiding it. 

[James123]

6 hours ago, Adrian colby said:

We know all of this and have moved past it and reintegrated back into reality ( capable of relating to other). They are not claims. They are descriptions using ‘things’, ’terms’, ‘concepts’, ‘metaphors’ and ‘analogies’ from within lived experience ( tangeable) to express and communicate a thought about an ‘intangeable’ being ( not A being but being as a state of inertia/potential that cannot be known due to its indescript and undefined nature. Not a concept derived from contemplation but an actual experience of reality dissolving till it is all that is left at the foundation ) no longer playing games with others about absolutism that cannot be applied at the relative level nor can non duality be used to gaslight the dualistic experience. accepting the human experience is happening ‘now’. All the other layers are there at the same moment but while human interacting normally can point to an experience and understanding of absolute, it doesn’t speak from there even though it’s a part of and encapsulated by it. 
 

if you are not interested in communicating or discussing ‘it’ then you are simply creating ‘content’ to draw people into discussion with no other purpose but to flatten and terminate the conversation. What’s the point of that?

My brother. There is no need for discussion. 

What i am only saying this, if you believe in sentences above, that's the mind. And any experience belongs to mind. That's all.

[Mellowmarsh]

5 hours ago, Adrian colby said:

Plenty of people walk around claiming enlightenment and ‘floating’ through life not actually engaging but avoiding it. 

How do you actually know this?  and is this claim absolutely true based on your own experience? Or are you simply projecting your own imagined interpretation of how you think other enlightened people conduct their own lives, as if you could possibly have direct experience of another person’s life.

 

[Yimpa]

13 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

How do you actually know this?

Consciousness itself!

13 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

and is this claim absolutely true based on your own experience?

There is ONLY Consciousness experiencing itself. The more selfless you become, there is ONLY Consciousness’ experience!

14 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

as if you could possibly have direct experience of another person’s life.

 

All OTHERS are YOU!

[Mellowmarsh]

6 hours ago, Adrian colby said:

We know all of this and have moved past it and reintegrated back into reality ( capable of relating to other).

What if some readers don’t know all this? 
 

You surely can’t be absolutely certain that we know all this. You may know all this, but you can’t speak for others.

Some people may visit this forum just for reading purposes only, while not necessarily interested in posting here, but rather here to gain valuable insight from the many various perspectives other people have to offer as to what they personally think about the nature of self.

Some truth seeking people often choose only to read forums without actually participating, just for the benefit of acquiring information that they may or may not find useful. Then of course  people who are only here to read are more than capable of making up their own minds as to what they deem useful or not.

What if someone doesn’t know all this, are you just going to tell them they do know all this? 

Edited 4 hours ago by Mellowmarsh

[VeganAwake]

How does someone avoid life? 🤔 

Everything IS life including attempting to avoid it 😅 

That's like someone trying to avoid breathing oxygen.

 

Nothing matters!

So-called spiritual bypassing doesn't matter.

There's no actual path which needs to be walked.

So-called avoiding doesn't matter.

Spearheading your fears and coming face to face with life's greatest challenges doesn't matter.

 

Its hilarious because enlightenment reveals that nothing ultimately matters, yet on the so-called spiritual journey to attain it, everything seems to matter.

But its not for anyone.

It's the end of that someone that wants to become enlightened.

[Mellowmarsh]

6 hours ago, Adrian colby said:

Even when you dissolve the body and world to sleep, the mind creates another body and world to experienced through. It does not always stay in an absolute state of peace.

I agree, a still mind is like a still wind. Not denying that obvious truth. The mind is in love with its own self created models and images. I mean what can the mind do with nothing, exactly?

The body is already in an absolute state of peace. The body doesn’t ask permission to function, it’s functioning automatically with or without a single thought about it. Bodies don’t ask who am I or what am I or seek god understanding, that’s all just mental activity, causing unnecessary agitation and stress when it’s perfectly preventable with the right mental attitude.. 

[Mellowmarsh]

19 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

How does someone avoid life? 🤔 

Everything IS life including attempting to avoid it 😅 

That's like someone trying to avoid breathing oxygen.

 

Nothing matters!

So-called spiritual bypassing doesn't matter.

There's no actual path which needs to be walked.

So-called avoiding doesn't matter.

Spearheading your fears and coming face to face with life's greatest challenges doesn't matter.

 

Its hilarious because enlightenment reveals that nothing ultimately matters, yet on the so-called spiritual journey to attain it, everything seems to matter.

But its not for anyone.

It's the end of that someone that wants to become enlightened.

Good points made. Thanks for that. 👍

The ineffable seemingly wants to be spoken about within the nondual and spiritual community.

But it’s like the unknowing wanting to be known, the silent wanting to be heard. It’s absurd, there’s only questions, not answers.

Ultimately, nothing matters, and that’s the peace that passes all understanding, the rest is just linguistic gymnastics. Pointless leading nowhere. 

[Joseph Maynor]

19 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Who am I ?

 

Let’s get the answer to this out in the open once and for all. Do tell the entire watching world exactly who am I am.

 

I’m listening. Don’t hold back.

Yes.  This is your main question: Who am "I"?  You are a seeker for that I.  

[Mellowmarsh]

10 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Yes.  This is your main question: Who am "I"?  You are a seeker for that I.  

Yes.

 

What did you discover? Any answers? 

[Joseph Maynor]

1 hour ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Yes.

 

What did you discover? Any answers? 

Everyone secretly operates with their own answers in spirituality, and they express them routinely.

[Mellowmarsh]

Just now, Joseph Maynor said:

Everyone secretly operates with their own answers in spirituality, and they express them routinely.

Okay.