No good or bad, being right or wrong or debating

[James123]

2 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

How to kill something if it never existed 🙂🙃🙂

Flowers open when sun hits.

[Joseph Maynor]

7 hours ago, James123 said:

Flowers open when sun hits.

Yes, including the I.

[James123]

2 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Yes, including the I.

When something is death, nothing has ever began for it. You can say oh it was alive, but now dead. But from your perspective.

When you die, you will have no past.

[Inliytened1]

On 2/7/2026 at 10:58 PM, James123 said:

No. There is no such thing as dream or not dream, these words are attachment. 

Where is the mind? Who is looking from eyes to zoom it?

Give up anything you know of. 

These are all beliefs. 

No they arent. That's where the advantans go wrong.  This No such thing as a dream is something you have manifested from ego. Your worldview would  leave you a dumb imbecile.  Not what reality intended. God is not that. God is intelligent with a mind that can think.

Edited 12 hours ago by Inliytened1

[James123]

4 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

No they arent. That's where the advantans go wrong.  This No such thing as a dream is something you have manifested from ego. Your worldview would  leave you a dumb imbecile.  Not what reality intended. God is not that. God is intelligent with a mind that can think.

Find the mind 😊 

[Inliytened1]

21 minutes ago, James123 said:

Find the mind 😊 

You found it when you asked me to find it.

[Inliytened1]

Just now, Inliytened1 said:

You found it when you asked me to find it.

This worldview ultimately fails because it is a game of hide and seek.  You cannot ultimately hide from God.

[VeganAwake]

On 2/8/2026 at 5:44 PM, Someone here said:

In the sense that this realization of no self promises nothing to the self Illusion.

Yeah, how could it?

When it's seen through clearly, there's nothing left in which could receive something.

You see through your own illusory identity and you see through others as well but that doesn't make you special or superior to others nor absolve you from playing the social game and acting like a clown to fit in society and all the nonsense of human existence.

There isn’t a real "You" underneath the illusory identity. There just isn't a "You" period.

Who would be special or superior if the realization was "there isn't a You"?

If there was an identity remaining that felt superior or special, that would indicate the illusory identity wasn't seen through clearly.

Only the illusory identity AKA ego, would feel special or superior.

Yup, body still plays social survival game. Money is still required for food, shelter and such.

So it kinda cancels itself once you become super conscious of the self illusion you don't crawl up in a corner somewhere but you play the social game even better. 

That which believes it became super conscious would still be the illusory identity. 

Which would mean the clear realization never occurred!

Nobody becomes enlightened.

Enlightenment is the end of the illusory identity attempting to become enlightened.

Rather its the end of an identity that never even began.......it just seemed to!

[James123]

32 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

You found it when you asked me to find it.

What a bullshit. 😂 

30 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

This worldview ultimately fails because it is a game of hide and seek.  You cannot ultimately hide from God.

When God is the situation, there is no universe, game etc... Just it.

How long you been in path and still in beliefs, try to own body and mind.

Let the body and mind go.

Be dead, be free.

 

 

[Inliytened1]

On 2/7/2026 at 10:58 PM, James123 said:

No. There is no such thing as dream or not dream, these words are attachment. 

Where is the mind? Who is looking from eyes to zoom it?

Give up anything you know of. 

These are all beliefs. 

So then there is such thing as an earth and planets and people you are talking to.  

[James123]

11 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

So then there is such thing as an earth and planets and people you are talking to.  

İmagine before birth, that's what God is, You is, Consciousness is and still now, always.

Only universe appears and disseappears.

Anything and everything arises and falls within, but it is none.

So, when you surrender, body and mind still be alive, but you don't move or began, actually never moved nor began.

[Inliytened1]

Just now, James123 said:

İmagine before birth, that's what God is, You is, Consciousness is and still now, always.

Only universe appears and disseappears.

Anything and everything arises and falls within, but it is none.

So, when you surrender, body and mind still be alive, but you don't move or began, actually never moved nor began.

But see then the body couldn't be. You would be formless prior to birth.  

[James123]

14 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

But see then the body couldn't be. You would be formless prior to birth.  

You are still formless / actually has no name. Body might appears or disseappear. 

Body talks, not you, body walks, not you.

They appear within You, but you are none.

If you ask why body exist, that when attachment to mind takes place. Even thought, experience, ideas arises and falls, when You are just be, they are neither relevant nor irrelevant.

Therefore, nothing has ever happened for You, therefore only nothing is happening now for universe.

[Inliytened1]

14 minutes ago, James123 said:

 

If you ask why body exist, that when attachment to mind takes place.

This to me seems like a religion.  If I cant ask where the body came from I am told I am holding an attachment to the mind.  No thanks. 

[James123]

30 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

This to me seems like a religion.  If I cant ask where the body came from I am told I am holding an attachment to the mind.  No thanks. 

No, even saying this seems to be a religion belongs to attachment 😊 

Ego is afraid to be completely naked 😊 

Good luck my brother. 

Peace.

[Inliytened1]

16 minutes ago, James123 said:

No, even saying this seems to be a religion belongs to attachment 😊 

Ego is afraid to be completely naked 😊 

Good luck my brother. 

Peace.

Because you cant defend any further so you have to peace out. Ok.

[James123]

31 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Because you cant defend any further so you have to peace out. Ok.

Whatever you think surrender all. 

SURRENDER.

Attachment the body is what prison is.

Be free. Freedom is only there when death comes.

 

[Joseph Maynor]

4 minutes ago, James123 said:

Freedom is only there when death comes.

When does death come?

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

When does death come?

I guess when you're not imprisoned from attachments.