Seek and ye shall find. That's the whole trick.

[Nemo28]

5 minutes ago, Joshe said:

You can make friends with Ultimate Satan if you train your consciousness that way.

Yeah, but would Ultimate Satan be any different from Ultimate reality? 

[Miguel1]

I don’t know exactly what you were looking for with this thread, but to be honest, it is quite empty man.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Perhaps the missing link here is that the truth is not found. It is what survives after all falsehood is removed.

You don't arrive at truth like a destination. It is what survives and speaks for itself. And this is done by removing and deconstructing. Peeling off all falsehood to see what remains. Not seeking. Which is why it can also feel negative. To be looking for the false. But it is the only way to reach truth without smuggling in some form of idea of what it could be.

I think looking at it as seeking is dangerous; seeking is directional. Direction carries with it desire. Desire is bias. Blindness.

Is this what you were attempting to point to?

Edited 5 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Cred]

Yeah the problem is, when you train your mind to believe that everything is consciousness, that this will bias your mind to turn inwards.

"Why would I help this person materially if I could just imagine helping them, which would be the same thing?"

At the end, you will not be more right when you believe in philosophical idealism oder more right when you believe in philosophical materialism, the only thing that is shifting is what you tend to focus on. (Meditation, thinking, lucid dreaming, fantacising, isolation, etc. vs acting, socializing, political activism, improving material conditions etc.)

This is not an error. You need to focus on some narrative in order to act and make a decision. You can also empty your cup and act intuetively, but if you are here you have very much intact reasoning skills, it would be a waste not to use them at all. Also your intuition is biased towards your beliefs anyways.

Learning about marxism has provided me with an extremely important insight. It's that this notion, common in spiritual circles that "you can't change the world but at least you can change yourself through discovering god" is complete bullshit and capitalist propaganda.

No matter where you look in history, the concept of god was always used by the ruling class to make the oppressed class turn inwards and "forget" they are oppressed. "The reason you are doing poorly is because you are not enlightened enough!" 

I want you to research the horrendous conditions, the tibetan serfs were faced with under the supposedly so loving Lama system before the Chinese communists liberated them.

The thing is, this has never changed. It only has become more subtle, and this community is the proof.

Edited 4 hours ago by Cred

[Cred]

The Tibet topic is controversial. Here is an article I found

https://redsails.org/friendly-feudalism/

I encourage you to get your own sources and make your own opinion about the subject.

[Nemo28]

4 hours ago, Cred said:

"you can't change the world but at least you can change yourself through discovering god"

This is accurate, in my experience. By discovering god all things fall in right place, the vision clarifies and the world didn't need to change.

I still have so much to learn, but I can see the larger pattern of perfection.