We should abolish the United States.

[Apparition of Jack]

The internet itself is the genesis of global civilisation.

[aurum]

12 minutes ago, Apparition of Jack said:

Nation-states as an idea are dead.

No they are NOT.

You may feel they are dead, but the vast majority of the world population does not agree with you. And they will fight you to the death.

Even a globally integrated society will still require nations. In the same way that the United States still requires states and cities, even though it is united.

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[Apparition of Jack]

2 minutes ago, aurum said:

No they are NOT.

You may feel they are dead, but the vast majority of the world population does not agree with you. And they will fight you tooth and nail.

Even a globally integrated society will still require nations. In the same way that the United States still requires states and cities, even though it is united.

There was a time when the vast majority of the world accepted slavery was a fact of life, sometimes even “necessary”, but advances in technology, social thought, trade, living standards etc made it impossible to sustain. Nowadays, slavery is one of the most abhorred institutions on the planet, regulated to obscure black markets and completely eliminated in developed countries. 
 

The world changes. Times evolve. Don’t get me wrong, I love my own country, I love its unique culture and way of life and everything, but there’s nothing about increasing global integration that threatens that (no more than when the US united after revolution Carolina uniting with Pennsylvania threatened those two state’s unique characteristics.) And again, the billionaire class already lives in a de-facto international world, it’s just unlike everyone else they see it as a tool to be exploited and harvested for their own perverse needs, not a living place to be nurtured and curated. This is a frightening prospect, unity, I understand that, but at some point it’ll become inevitable. Things are just way, WAY too interconnected for it to be otherwise. 

[aurum]

16 minutes ago, Apparition of Jack said:

There was a time when the vast majority of the world accepted slavery was a fact of life, sometimes even “necessary”, but advances in technology, social thought, trade, living standards etc made it impossible to sustain. Nowadays, slavery is one of the most abhorred institutions on the planet, regulated to obscure black markets and completely eliminated in developed countries. 
 

The world changes. Times evolve. Don’t get me wrong, I love my own country, I love its unique culture and way of life and everything, but there’s nothing about increasing global integration that threatens that (no more than when the US united after revolution Carolina uniting with Pennsylvania threatened those two state’s unique characteristics.) And again, the billionaire class already lives in a de-facto international world, it’s just unlike everyone else they see it as a tool to be exploited and harvested for their own perverse needs, not a living place to be nurtured and curated.

Then you will be raging against nationalists for the rest of your life. You will never succeed.

Nation-states are going nowhere.

16 minutes ago, Apparition of Jack said:

This is a frightening prospect, unity, I understand that, but at some point it’ll become inevitable. Things are just way, WAY too interconnected for it to be otherwise. 

When is "some point"?

5 years? 50 years? 500 years?

If your solutions are only useful 500 years from now, you have no real solutions. Just idealizations. 

[Basman]

Ignore the will of the people at your own peril. 

[LordFall]

I agree with you. I think we are headed towards the unification of the global order into a world federation that goes beyond national interest into global interest. The current crisis of international law regarding the situations in Ukraine, Gaza and Venezuela foreshadow this as well as the rise of a new possible robotic military peacekeeping force under the control of the United Nations. 

There is a movement advocating for this called World federalism.