Leo can't fix you because you are Neurodivergent

[Cred]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

But you are still making this too much about you. Not everything revolves around you.

This is not about me. I could just solve my problems with the ND framework and move on. But I'm not

[Cred]

Well I am solving my problems, but I'm also sharing my insights on this forum. Is this not what it is for?

[Leo Gura]

A lot of diverse people like my videos. You can't stereotype them all as one thing.

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Cred]

Yes they are diverse. This is what neurodiversity is

the only people who are not diverse (conform) are neurotypicals

Edited 3 hours ago by Cred

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, Cred said:

but I'm also sharing my insights on this forum. Is this not what it is for?

Of course you can share your ideas. No problem. Just watch out for assumptions and overgeneralizations about a huge diverse group of people.

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[Joseph Maynor]

Unless I've hung out with someone usually more than a few times, I really don't know much about their true personality.

[Cred]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Just watch out for assumptions and overgeneralizations about a huge diverse group of people.

The ND label helps to make distinctions. The reason my language is binary bc I want to stick with one-liners. The ND label can be split into more and more narrow distinctions

Calling conform people Neurotypicals offers an extremely potent way to learn through distinctions

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[Leo Gura]

@Cred You know what's always diverse? Normies.

[Cred]

If you take two random neurotypicals (NT) people and two ND people, the two NTs are more likely to be alike than the two ND people

So I disagree. Can you elaborate on your point?

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[Joseph Maynor]

1 minute ago, Cred said:

If you take two random neurotypicals (NT) people and two ND people, the two NTs are more likely to be alike than the two ND people

How did you acquire this information with such depth and why?  Curious.

[Cred]

8 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Unless I've hung out with someone usually more than a few times, I really don't know much about their true personality.

I spend a lot of irl time with the literal embodiment of this community @relativity (he watched all of the videos. yes, all). Trust me I know this community

[Cred]

4 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

How did you acquire this information with such depth and why?  Curious.

With the tools Leo has taught me lol. Questioning self-deception

[Joseph Maynor]

1 minute ago, Cred said:

I spend a lot of irl time with the literal embodiment of this community @relativity (he watched all of the videos. yes, all). Trust me I know this community

But if you hung out with each of us, your assessment would be more accurate, no?  How much can you know about someone without this crucial context?  Most people on here you don't even know what they look like.

[Cred]

57 minutes ago, Cred said:

It is impossible for someone to discover Actualized.org unless they're neurodivergent

This

It's a necessary condition for you to be obsessed with Actualized.org

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[Cred]

My claims are not that radical imo 😭. All I'm doing is ask about what set of genetics make a person more likely to fall in love with Leo Gura (lol)

*careless whisper starts playing*

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[relativity]

15 minutes ago, Cred said:

I spend a lot of irl time with the literal embodiment of this community @relativity (he watched all of the videos. yes, all). Trust me I know this community

 

That was too much credit for my modest soul. Actually I watched many of them multiple times and I gain more and more out of them.

In my opinion, ND can be a strong catalyst for this work, because you have to question your reality simply as a survival mechanism in a world made for NT. Therefore you have a strong, natural synchronicity with the values of Actualized.

But in my opinion, I don't think it is a necessity. 

[Joshe]

5 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

How much can you know about someone without this crucial context?

Some grandma cohorts like to swim at the Y with other grandmas, some like to sew quilts in solitude. We can extrapolate one group is more extroverted. 

But “extroverted grandma” is not high resolution - we can’t tell very much from that. So let’s look at a higher resolution profile. If a goth person with tats, piercings, wears all black, and hangs out with other goth people at goth clubs banging to heavy metal, this is a much higher resolution profile. If you immerse yourself into that profile and become goth yourself, you can build high resolution understanding of them without knowing every single thing about them. 

[Joseph Maynor]

3 minutes ago, Joshe said:

Some grandma cohorts like to swim at the Y with other grandmas, some like to sew quilts in solitude. We can extrapolate one group is more extroverted. 

But “extroverted grandma” is not high resolution - we can’t tell very much from that. So let’s look at a higher resolution profile. If a goth person with tats, piercings, wears all black, and hangs out with other goth people at goth clubs banging to heavy metal, this is a much higher resolution profile. If you immerse yourself into that profile and become goth yourself, you can build high resolution understanding of them without knowing every single thing about them. 

Yes, but this is still all at the level of abstraction and inference.  Instead of zooming into the mind, you meet people as people and get to know them that way.  Then you can still generalize, but it will have the right relation between cart and horse.

[Cred]

8 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Yes, but this is still all at the level of abstraction and inference.  Instead of zooming into the mind, you meet people as people and get to know them that way.  Then you can still generalize, but it will have the right relation between cart and horse.

Yes this is why I came to those conclusions not through pure theory but through carefully observing myself and other ND People irl.

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[Joshe]

3 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Yes, but this is still all at the level of abstraction and inference.  Instead of zooming into the mind, you meet people as people and get to know them that way.  Then you can still generalize, but it will have the right relation between cart and horse.

Actualized.org’s hardcore fan base all share things in common besides just their interests. The claim is that there is something psychologically fundamental that clusters them together. 

Goth people are all different, but they usually arrive at being goth from the same structure. They share psychological attributes and similar experiences.