Consciousness is all that there is

[Ramasta9]

Existence is what is / Consciousness is what it's like to be what is

 

[Davino]

9 hours ago, LastThursday said:

I think within here means inside, no? Consciousness wouldn't be the container, it is the thing itself (there is no screen). 

It is both the screen and the appearance 

The screen is the trascendental unchanging reality

The manifestation is the immanent ever changing dream

Consciousness is both and one cannot exist without the other, it's a cocreation

The transcendental Reality (Brahman Consciousness) needs to be in one state or the other (manifestation, dream or universe). In the same way, the manifestation of appearances necessitates to 'exist' and it's this existence which is necessarily trascendental.

So you can have an Awakening only into appearances, you can have an Awakening in to the trascendental screen, you can have an Awakening of both at the same time and finally both are Realised as the some One Ultimate Reality.

9 hours ago, LastThursday said:

But is it consciousness singular or consciousnesses plural? If what you experience is a plurality of consciousnesses then yes there can be an "outside" to a particular instance of consciousness, i.e. it's another consciousness. 

Consciousness is Infinity

Let me phrase it like this

Imagine you have One Seed, the Original and Primordial Seed of Reality. Then it grows like a egg and hatches in and overflowing strange loop movement, from which a million flowers sprung and blossom reaping a trillion more seeds, that are both identical to the original and completely unique, like a chamber of mirrors replicating itself ad infinitum.

9 hours ago, LastThursday said:

In my idea above, consciousness is synonymous with appearance. 

This is true

10 hours ago, LastThursday said:

See it like this. Say there is a left and a right "appearance" in your vision. My argument is that the left appearance is distinct from the right appearance, and you may as well call each of them a separate consciousness, because they are in fact different. That's because I'm collapsing consciousness and appearance into one thing. There is nothing in principle stopping you from defining consciousness this way, just as there nothing in principle stopping you from defining consciousness as "one thing". 

That is so with the Immanent/manifestation Awakening, but not so with the Trascendental Awakening. 

You may fragment Reality or Consciousness ad Infinitum but it's still existence/consciousness/reality, that's the unifying Trascendental Brahman throughout all Infinity, it's the eternal now-experience that metamorphs at every breath.

Both have to be realised independently, Combined and as One.

10 hours ago, LastThursday said:

I think what gets in the way is that most people have a sense of a unified "me" that experiences things "out there", and it's hard to see through that.

Oh yes, that's true and in fact our conversation is going clearly much beyond that as well.

That Awakening is basic and fundamental for the rest of the path to unfold, it's like a checkpoint.

[Davino]

18 hours ago, PolyPeter said:

The ultimate remembering of what you are

Consciousness plays the game of forgetting itself as God dreaming reality, getting lost within its own creations

How do you know that is true?

It is true, but have you realised it? If so, how holistically? When and how was that Awakening / God-Realisation for you? Please explain

[Breakingthewall]

13 hours ago, Davino said:

@LastThursday And you're conscious of all that and all of this

How can anything exist outside of consciousness, when inside and outside happen within Conscious, all thoughts, emotions, experiences, appearances, sensations, states are manifestations of the same one Reality, which is existence itself, truth, consciousness, Love, Infinite, Universal Mind, Living God

To place "consciousness" as the ontological foundation of reality is to elevate the ego to the status of god. Consciousness is not something; it is reality in its dualistic form, reflecting itself. It's just the reality, but in registration and self-preservation mode. In the human case, also in symbolic mode.

Don't you think it's too easy for "enlightenment" to be realizing that you are consciousness? The true Tao cannot be named. If you name it (as consciousness, for example), it's a false Tao.