What spiritual teachers actually teach Solipsism

[Inliytened1]

5 minutes ago, Ponder said:

I’m conscious with 100% certainty. If you are as well that’s solipsism debunked. Yes, technically there’s no way for me to know with 100% certainty that you’re conscious, but i know with 100% certainty that i am. So i can debunk solipsism for literally anyone else, just not conclusively for myself I guess. I would recommend you watch Leo‘s infinity of god’s episode. 
 

Also, get off the forum and go live life. You have 12000 posts dude. That’s literally not healthy to be constantly pondering stuff like this. Trust me, there’s more to life than philosophizing about fuckin solipsism. 

I have watched that.  Thanks.  Yes there is more to life and I guarantee I have lived more than you would ever want.   Nowadays I just chill and I like to armchair shit.

[James123]

19 minutes ago, Ponder said:

I’m conscious with 100% certainty

Where is that I?

[James123]

17 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Or other. 

Or none other.

Words, beliefs, experiences comes and goes. If there is no body, there is no experience, beliefs etc...

But You are always what You are. Body, existence, universe, anything you can experience or not experience is temporary.

Edited yesterday at 04:40 AM by James123

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, James123 said:

Or none other.

Words, beliefs, experiences comes and goes. If there is no body, there is no experience, beliefs etc...

But You are always what You are. Body is temporary.

Indeed.

I have no argument with you brother. You are one of the few awakened left here to dwell in i don't know what  

 

Edited yesterday at 04:42 AM by Inliytened1

[James123]

9 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Indeed.

I have no argument with you brother. You are one of the few awakened left here to dwell in i don't know what  

 

I am not arguing with you brother. Actually I am not awakened, but I or entire story is gone. Therefore, never born.

Entire enlightenment shit is just completely disseappearing, and body moves it's own. That's all. That's what living as enlightened being is.

What You are before birth, that's what You are now and will be after death of the body.

Never move, began, always.

[Inliytened1]

4 minutes ago, James123 said:

I am not arguing with you brother. Actually I am not awakened, but I or entire story is gone. Therefore, never born.

Entire enlightenment shit is just completely disseappearing, and body moves it's own. That's all. That's what living as enlightened being is.

What You are before birth, that's what You are now and will be after death of the body.

Never move, began, always.

There is still the story of you. 

Until there isn't. 

[James123]

6 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

There is still the story of you. 

Until there isn't. 

No there is no story of me.

Body born and will die. This is the all story. 

[Inliytened1]

Just now, James123 said:

No there is no story of me.

Body born and will die. This is the all story. 

Yet you remain here..  Thats a story and a will to live in your current form. You cannot deny that. Otherwise you would be gone.  As James. 

[VeganAwake]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Yet you remain here..  Thats a story and a will to live in your current form. You cannot deny that. Otherwise you would be gone.  As James. 

Who remains here?

Who's story and who's will to live?

Who can't deny that?

 

Can the so-called James entity be pinpointed?

Is it the body?

Where is the "As James" character exactly?

 

 

[Inliytened1]

Just now, VeganAwake said:

Who remains here?

Who's story and who's will to live?

Who can't deny that?

 

Can the so-called James entity be pinpointed?

Is it the body?

Where is the "As James" character exactly?

If this is your life i truly feel sorry for you. This is why I despise this neo-advaitan garbage.   You should be able to embrace your ego.   And you know what? You do.  So your words are a farce.

[Breakingthewall]

5 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

Do you really believe that the universe is this dumb.   Is this your grand theory of reality? I seemed to like it better when you thought it was Inifnity. 

If you want to fine.  I guess its better than believing in Jesus.

The universe is coherent because what is not coherent can't exist. 

[VeganAwake]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

If this is your life i truly feel sorry for you. This is why I despise this neo-advaitan garbage.   You should be able to embrace your ego.   And you know what? You do.  So your words are a farce.

What's a farce?

[James123]

27 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Yet you remain here..  Thats a story and a will to live in your current form. You cannot deny that. Otherwise you would be gone.  As James. 

Where are you in the body? If you find the answer of this, but you can't. 

28 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Otherwise you would be gone.  As James. 

Exactly, body is there / it's own and James is gone. 

And that's what enlightenment is.

[Inliytened1]

8 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

What's a farce?

The realization of no self is actually enlightenment...but what neo-advaitans have done..and yourself..have decided to just declare there is no self and live by it.  This is very dangerous because you miss out on the actual spirituality of no self dissolving.   You live by the concept of it.  This is not spirituality. 

[Inliytened1]

41 minutes ago, James123 said:

 

Exactly, body is there / it's own and James is gone. 

And that's what enlightenment is.

No that's not what enlightenment is.  Thats a concept. 

[Joseph Maynor]

47 minutes ago, James123 said:

Where are you in the body? If you find the answer of this, but you can't. 

Exactly, body is there / it's own and James is gone. 

And that's what enlightenment is.

How do you know the body exists?

[Mellowmarsh]

3 hours ago, James123 said:

How many years you are in this path. And still saying solipsism. 

Wake up. See, the one who comes and goes is mind. Any experience belongs to it.

You are none. Neither universe, existence nor body.

You are always what You are. Never moved, never began.

Is this You that is always what you are; just this unknown unborn unconscious everything ?

 

But then …somehow the human brain, or mind, emerged from the unborn unconscious in a way that appeared to construct an experience known as a sense of self awareness,  that then claimed ownership of this sense of self awareness.
 

A sense of self awareness that isn’t actually real or there in reality because it’s unconscious?

 

My theory is now leaning more towards the unconscious unborn everything, I’m not feeling the cosmos that knows it’s conscious, anymore. I used to, but have changed my mind about it. I’m thinking more along the same route that you are thinking this James. I agree with you. And I think “Breakingthewall” is onto something along those lines as well that sounds plausible.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 06:42 AM by Mellowmarsh

[Inliytened1]

5 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Is this You that is always what you are; just this unknown unborn unconscious everything ?

 

But then …somehow the human brain, or mind, emerged from the unborn unconscious in a way that appeared to construct an experience known as a sense of self awareness,  that then claimed ownership of this sense of self awareness.
 

A sense of self awareness that isn’t actually real or there in reality because it’s unconscious?

 

My theory is now leaning more towards the unconscious unborn everything, I’m not feeling the cosmos that knows it’s conscious, anymore. I used to, but have changed my mind about it. I’m thinking more along the same route that you are thinking this James. I agree with you. And I think “Breakingthewall” is onto something along those lines as well that sounds plausible.

You're not going to be able to reason with these people. Its just "there's no you". There isn't anything. 

[Joseph Maynor]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

You're not going to be able to reason with these people. Its just "there's no you". There isn't anything. 

This is the ultimate neo-advaita video IMO.  Hilarious.
 

 

[Mellowmarsh]

55 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

The realization of no self is actually enlightenment...but what neo-advaitans have done..and yourself..have decided to just declare there is no self and live by it.  This is very dangerous because you miss out on the actual spirituality of no self dissolving.   You live by the concept of it.  This is not spirituality. 

This is all a human construct. An artificial appearance of mind. It’s not the actual reality in an objective sense, that’s always appearing and disappearing.
 

Knowledge is difference where there is none. Reality is prior to knowledge, reality is indifference. Reality is unaware it’s aware, and not the other way round, where it’s aware it’s unaware.