Need Help Identifying Psychedelic

[pursuitofspirit]

Hey friends, I need some help. I work at a smoke shop and we sell these Rize mushroom chocolate bars that create some solid psychedelic effects. I’ve tried them myself and everyone I’ve talked to says the same thing: very similar to classic Magic mushrooms, visuals, auditory hallucinations, changed mind state, changed body sensations, etc. I’ve tried for weeks to figure out what the chemical is inside these that produces effects, but I can’t seem to find a solid answer. I even emailed Rize HQ to see if I could get a response, but nothing. At first I thought it was Amanita Muscaria, but on there website it explicitly states that Amanita is not used in the bars. It also says on the bars that no psilocybin is used. So what do you think it is? Maybe 4-AcO-DMT? Or something else? Would love to hear your thoughts. Note the ingredient list on the back (“Organic Mushroom Alkaloid Extract”) Thanks in advance. 

[Oppositionless]

It's almost certainly a 4- sub tryptamine. 4 pro dmt is being used in some lately instead of 4 aco, there's also 4 ho met which is quite distinct from mushrooms.

Edited yesterday at 01:02 AM by Oppositionless

[Hojo]

The website says Lions mane extract.

https://rizeofhope.com/product/12g-dark-crunch-chocolate-bar/

Edited yesterday at 06:57 AM by Hojo

[Oppositionless]

12 hours ago, Hojo said:

The website says Lions mane extract.

https://rizeofhope.com/product/12g-dark-crunch-chocolate-bar/

Lmaooo

Okay but still , it's very easy to get 4 subs at smoke shops in the US

[Schizophonia]

21 minutes ago, Oppositionless said:

Lmaooo

Okay but still , it's very easy to get 4 subs at smoke shops in the US

No the lion mane is in addition for some reason; the psychedelic (allegedly) comes from the shroom extract. 

But it's very expensive for what it is.

 

[Michal__]

If you're tripping from it, it obviously isn't just lion's mane.

Send it to me for testing.

Edited 23 hours ago by Michal__

[pursuitofspirit]

20 hours ago, Oppositionless said:

It's almost certainly a 4- sub tryptamine. 4 pro dmt is being used in some lately instead of 4 aco, there's also 4 ho met which is quite distinct from mushrooms.

Interesting. Thanks for your response.

[pursuitofspirit]

14 hours ago, Hojo said:

The website says Lions mane extract.

https://rizeofhope.com/product/12g-dark-crunch-chocolate-bar/

Lions mane is an additional ingredient to help support focus / mental clarity. I've taken lions mane many times before as a supplement and it's definitely not what is causing the psychedelic effects.

Edited 21 hours ago by pursuitofspirit

[pursuitofspirit]

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

No the lion mane is in addition for some reason; the psychedelic (allegedly) comes from the shroom extract. 

But it's very expensive for what it is.

 

Agreed. 

[pursuitofspirit]

1 hour ago, Michal__ said:

If you're tripping from it, it obviously isn't just lion's mane.

Send it to me for testing.

How would you test it?

[pursuitofspirit]

It's important to note: customers have reported full ego-dissolution experiences on these things. One customer said he saw God while eating them. When I asked about his experience he said he saw a light brighter than any light he had ever seen, and that this light had a Godly presence to it.

For my own experience, I took 4 out of the 10 squares of the small 5 gram bar we sell (roughly 2 grams). My trip was moderate, lasting around 4 hours. I had classic mushroom visuals - wavy patterns on objects and breathing walls. My body felt light, airy, and fluid. My mind state shifted noticeably. It was very much like psilocybin, but not quite the same. 

I wonder if it's 4-AcO-DMT, since that converts to psilocin in your body (4-HO-DMT), which is what psilocybin converts to as well. That could explain why the rize chocolate bars feel so similar to classic magic mushrooms.

Edited 21 hours ago by pursuitofspirit

[Hojo]

When I saw God it was black.

[Hojo]

When I saw God it was black. Like deep sleep black. It showed me deep sleep state is happening right now while awake.

Edited 16 hours ago by Hojo