The One And Only Absolute Truth.

[Mellowmarsh]

4 hours ago, LastThursday said:

An "absolute" truth presupposes other types of truth, what is "absolute" in opposition to?

The only absolute truth you know absolutely, is that you exist as a 'thinking being'. Everything else is linguistics. 

That's all I'm talking about right now. 

What's not to understand that you exist as a 'thinking being', absolutely. What would this truth be in opposition with, exactly?

[Mellowmarsh]

4 hours ago, Ramasta9 said:

The battle of the non-dools lol 

- Actualized.org 

If you have anything of value to contribute to this thread topic, please do, I will be happy to read it, and respond accordingly.

Otherwise, keep your non-dool battles to yourself, for yourself, whatever those battles are supposed to be, or mean to you. But personally I have no idea what you are talking about, and while we're on the topic, please try to adhere to the actual topic, as that would be highly appreciated.

Thanks for your cooperation. 

[Mellowmarsh]

5 hours ago, LastThursday said:

HNY.

A quick summary of the holes in the argument so far:

1. Are we talking about thinking (reasoning) or experiencing (prior to reasoning) here?

2. Is it possible to bring things into existence by pure reasoning?

3. How does reasoning bring itself into existence? Or is reasoning and existence the same thing?

4. If a truth is self evident and unquestionable, then how does an "absolute" truth differ?

5. An "absolute" truth presupposes other types of truth, what is "absolute" in opposition to?

 

In a nutshell, we are talking about the absolute truth of knowing you exist as a thinking being.

It doesn't need to get more complicated than that simple absolute knowing.

[James123]

50 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

In a nutshell, we are talking about the absolute truth of knowing you exist as a thinking being.

It doesn't need to get more complicated than that simple absolute knowing.

İt is actually so simple that doesn't even require knowing. Even knowing exist or not.

[LastThursday]

3 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

In a nutshell, we are talking about the absolute truth of knowing you exist as a thinking being.

No you're adding more than Descartes said.

He was talking about the absolute truth of knowing you exist only when you are thinking (or experiencing). It's absolute because doubting the statement is itself a form of thinking, which means the doubt is wrong.

[Joseph Maynor]

Is there only one Absolute Truth or are there many?

[Inliytened1]

21 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Is there only one Absolute Truth or are there many?

If you realize reality is Infinity there can only ultimately be one.  Many is the fragmentation of the one which can be said to be the same as the one.  Hence duality is non-duality.  

Edited 12 hours ago by Inliytened1

[Mellowmarsh]

12 hours ago, James123 said:

İt is actually so simple that doesn't even require knowing. Even knowing exist or not.

This is simply known.

[Mellowmarsh]

9 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Is there only one Absolute Truth or are there many?

That's like asking is there one of you, or many of you.

[Mellowmarsh]

@Inliytened1 Great answer.

[Mellowmarsh]

19 hours ago, James123 said:

I can't see the knowledge and thoughts. Most of the day, if I don't look at the mirror, I can't even see the body.

Have you seen an apple, or an orange, or a banana?

 

[Joseph Maynor]

41 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

That's like asking is there one of you, or many of you.

So this Absolute Truth is which you?

[Mellowmarsh]

12 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

So this Absolute Truth is which you?

Find out.

A clue is in the OP

Edited 1 hour ago by Mellowmarsh

[Joseph Maynor]

On 12/30/2025 at 11:43 PM, Mellowmarsh said:

IS...revealed in the statement  ''I think therefore I am'' - Attributed to Rene Descartes in 1637  

That statement is the 'Absolute Truth'  that is attributed to every human being on the planet.  I am therefore I exist.

Everything else is just linguistics conceived of thought.  

It signifies that the act of thinking is proof of one's existence, as one cannot doubt one's existence while still thinking.

You don't even need the therefore or proof.  It's just I AM, no?

[Mellowmarsh]

1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

It's just I AM

Yes. 

 

[Joseph Maynor]

1 minute ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Yes. 

 

Do you think or feel there is no separate self?

[Mellowmarsh]

3 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Do you think or feel there is no separate self?

I used to buy into the idea of no separate selves. But then changed my mind, I now see separation as an actual truth.

For example: From the perspective of 'me' here, I know I am not someone else, nor is someone else me. Only I am being me. I am the centre of my own universe so to speak. No one else is experiencing the experiences I am experiencing. And because I know I exist, I also know other life forms are existing too. Like cats and dogs and trees, and people. While these other life forms exist, I am not them, I am not a cat, or a dog, or a tree, or another person.

So I agree with the idea that Nonduality is duality.

 

 

[Mellowmarsh]

I think separation had to be, it could not have been any other way. Separation works primarily as a fundamental function necessary for the survival purposes of every living life form. The myriad of life forms that do exist, I believe, were not meant to discover their physical essence was built from the exact same ingredients needed to manifest all life forms, we now know as particles, atoms, electrons etc, etc, or whatever building blocks formed physical appearances in the first place, I'm no scientist. . I do understand that separate appearances had to be, and that each one is being a totally unique centre in it's own universe, completely sealed off from any other centre. I believe there are infinite I AM's and each I AM is a unique universe unto itself. So there are also infinite universes.  

 

Fundamentally, everything is manifest of the same one source, whatever source is, I don't know, I can't know source, because I AM source, that's all I know of source.  Miraculously though, source was able to manufacture infinite individual unrepeatable unique life forms, that are each a one off, unique manifestation of the one absolute original source. How that happened, I've no idea, except that it happened, obviously. Ultimately, there is only source sourcing nothing but itself, in myriad of different forms. This I believe was never meant to be realised as Infinite Absolute Oneness, it was meant to give the impression of infinite multiplicity, which is ultimately the same as Absolute Infinite Oneness. So even as it is able to see through the illusion of separation it didn't change a thing. It didn't really matter, because Multiplicity was always going to be Oneness, or, Oneness was always going to be Multiplicity. It was always going to be the same switcheroo reality, no matter which way you chose to look at it.

 

Anyway, this is just my theory based on my capacity to think and use linguistic language and to form some kind of sensibility and coherent meaning and purpose to the reality that is my life as an individual unique never to be repeated,  I Am. 

  

[Mellowmarsh]

You exist, as both body and mind and the awareness of both.

Ultimately, you are your mind, you are the author of your own reality. You are not some passenger hitching a ride on and off your physical vehicle. You are literally the authentic sole driver of your physical vehicle.  No one else drives your bus, but you.