How to practice approaching women?

[fopylo]

@Looks

Sorry, but have you read what I wrote?

I'm talking about the dude

[Looks]

Just now, fopylo said:

@Looks

Sorry, but have you read what I wrote?

I'm talking about the dude

oh, i was also asking about the dude.

quoting again so this doesn't get lost:
 

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was she ordered by court to pay that amount?

 

else no way in Hell she'd be moving around with such ease. talk owing to a bank, or an individual, or a gang.

 

 

[CARDOZZO]

26 minutes ago, fopylo said:

@CARDOZZO

Ok interesting videos. I like how they talk about the importance of it. Maybe I'll make it my goal to get an instant date after getting over the fear of approaching and having some conversation. They both seem like they know what they're doing but at first I got some weird vibes from the second video if it's staged. Later on it seemed pretty real, but like he's approach was so weird that it would be hard for me to imagine it working. Maybe it's just my fear speaking.

Sure, give it a shoot 😉

[Looks]

what do you look out of the approach? there's a reason why didnt u sex in high school. everyone attended high school. high school is the prime years and environment of sex. if you are made to miss out then you'll not get any revenge especially not over a pety reason. everyone will judge you badly. sex is your own responsibility. try to approach foids but dont be surprised when they reject you. everyone hates desperation. well males love desperation from other males. females despise desperation especially in the direction of sex with them. theyll outright reject humilate piss on your grave trust.

 

do you have 10 million after tax in the bank.

do you u have a stable inflow of 8 figaras income weekly- if not, change your desire. women isn't a tool to the end fuckhead. women are the end goal. money is merely a device, a vehicle achieveing that my Dream.

[fopylo]

@Looks

You must have confused pronouns. Probably English isn't your first language.

Umm, I'm not sure though

[fopylo]

9 minutes ago, Looks said:

what do you look out of the approach?

@Looks

What do you look out of writing to me all this?

My goal here is to try to improve my ways with women and live with less fear and become more brave. If this somehow triggers you then please journal it out or create a separate thread expressing your frustration with women.

🙏🏻

[Looks]

2 minutes ago, fopylo said:

@Looks

What do you look out of writing to me all this?

My goal here is to try to improve my ways with women and live with less fear and become more brave. If this somehow triggers you then please journal it out or create a separate thread expressing your frustration with women.

🙏🏻

okay. and i voiced my perfectly reasonable worries over she not paying that 2 million british islands pound.

[Zenterus]

1 minute ago, fopylo said:

@Looks

What do you look out of writing to me all this?

My goal here is to try to improve my ways with women and live with less fear and become more brave. If this somehow triggers you then please journal it out or create a separate thread expressing your frustration with women.

🙏🏻

Bro, ignore @Looks. Literally every post he makes is empty garbage.

@Leo Gura Please look into his post history. He might be worth a warning if not outright banning from the forum.

@fopylo As for you, homie, keep doing your thing. Instant dates might be a bit too much for you at the current stage you're in, but if you want to give it a try, go for it.

I will say that at a more advanced level.. instant dates are not efficient. They cost money and dont guarantee a date, plus they risk potentially lowering your value in daygame cause the girl might start perceiving you as someone who isnt doing much in his day to day life, hence why you have all this free time to spend with her, which she hasn't earned.

I personally prefer sitting girls down on a bench for a few minutes to solidify the number and then bounce.

Although, instant dates are useful if you plan on pulling the girl home after you solidify a connection. But then again, sitting on a bench can work just as well.

[fopylo]

Ok ok, quick update (you gotta hear it man @Zenterus ):

I've somehow managed to secure a date on Tinder (well, we just moved it to Instagram). This will be my first date from tinder, in fact - my first online date. The only 2 dates I went to in my life were with girls I kinda knew already and years ago. Bottom line is that I don't really know how to date and what to do. I suggested we just meet to walk around a bit (not huge commitment and make it casual. I'm taking the idea of just walking around and "instant dating" it). Anyways, since it's gonna be in like the afternoon I don't know how to escalate with her. I don't know how escalating in a club is different from during daytime. What is acceptable and what is not. How do I know when to proceed and how? Thanks

[Zenterus]

19 minutes ago, fopylo said:

Ok ok, quick update (you gotta hear it man @Zenterus ):

I've somehow managed to secure a date on Tinder (well, we just moved it to Instagram). This will be my first date from tinder, in fact - my first online date. The only 2 dates I went to in my life were with girls I kinda knew already and years ago. Bottom line is that I don't really know how to date and what to do. I suggested we just meet to walk around a bit (not huge commitment and make it casual. I'm taking the idea of just walking around and "instant dating" it). Anyways, since it's gonna be in like the afternoon I don't know how to escalate with her. I don't know how escalating in a club is different from during daytime. What is acceptable and what is not. How do I know when to proceed and how? Thanks

Awesome, man! Happy for you

Ok, when it comes to dates, you have to be a man and lead. So, although you're just going for a walk, make sure you plan where you're going to walk and where you want to instant date.

Unfortunately, leading is a huge topic that I just dont have the time to break down now, but I will say that you want to be decisive and have a lot of certainty in what you do.

Pick a location to meet that's nearby your house. When you guys meet, tell her "lets walk this way" and lead her straight to a cafe, restaurant, bar, whatever. Dont do lunch btw. Do a beer or a tea or a coffee. Shit like that.

There just vibe and have a good time getting to know her.

I usually try to pull, but i wont confuse you with all the mechanics of that. Focus on having a pleasant date with her first.

After your drink, take her somewhere else nearby your house, such as a bench or a park or whatever. Talk for a bit then motion for her to sit closer to you and put your arm around her shoulder.

Keep talking, talking, talking. And then you can say something like.. "would it be terrible if we kissed right now?" No matter what she says, just slowly move in to kiss her - unless she responds with "yes," which in that case just say "i agree" with a smile and continue the conversation like normal. 

After that, talk a little bit more and tell her that you have somewhere to be later and end the date.

This should last anywhere from 2 to 3 hours.

Im trying my best not to overwhelm you and give you a very simple gameplan, but follow your intuition and most importantly, just have fun with it. It's not the end of the world if it doesnt go anywhere.

[CARDOZZO]

@fopylo 

Counter-intuitive move: treat her like a homeless person 😂😂 this fucking sounds ridiculous but you will not put her on a pedestal.

[fopylo]

@Zenterus wish I could just voice message you since it became my normal way of explaining stuff haha.

Basically I'm traveling now Thailand so I am just trying out tinder here, and I am lodging in hostels.

But in any case, I take what you say and just make it relevant to me. My plan was that she'll be the one who kinda knows around and stuff but I'll be the one like "hey, let's go there. Looks nice". So yes, to keep leading by "bouncing" to different paths I guess. Maybe then I'll suggest "hey I kinda want to get a drink/tea" and then offer her as well (the whole instant date thing). You get what I'm saying. But I'll be honest man, 2 things are worrying me a little:

1. Keeping the conversation going.

2. Flirting and escalating. Like what do you mean by motion her to sit closer? I'm a little scared doing those moves, like the arm around her. This shows intimacy and bravery. Like, let's say I do this, then what do I do and say next? It's obvious I became more intimate with her that way.

[fopylo]

And like how do you greet hello when starting the date? 😂

[Zenterus]

4 minutes ago, fopylo said:

And like how do you greet hello when starting the date? 😂

I typically just give her a hug and say "long time no see" as a little joke.

[fopylo]

11 minutes ago, Zenterus said:

I typically just give her a hug and say "long time no see" as a little joke.

@Zenterus yo I might use it 😂.

And like while you walk, do you hold hands?

The thing is that on one hand I also don't want to make the girl feel awkward by not doing any move and not touching her at all.

[Zenterus]

28 minutes ago, fopylo said:

@Zenterus wish I could just voice message you since it became my normal way of explaining stuff haha.

Basically I'm traveling now Thailand so I am just trying out tinder here, and I am lodging in hostels.

But in any case, I take what you say and just make it relevant to me. My plan was that she'll be the one who kinda knows around and stuff but I'll be the one like "hey, let's go there. Looks nice". So yes, to keep leading by "bouncing" to different paths I guess. Maybe then I'll suggest "hey I kinda want to get a drink/tea" and then offer her as well (the whole instant date thing). You get what I'm saying. But I'll be honest man, 2 things are worrying me a little:

1. Keeping the conversation going.

2. Flirting and escalating. Like what do you mean by motion her to sit closer? I'm a little scared doing those moves, like the arm around her. This shows intimacy and bravery. Like, let's say I do this, then what do I do and say next? It's obvious I became more intimate with her that way.

Alright, man. Before I say anything else, just know that this is just a learning experience. Don't get too emotionally invested in this. Have fun with it.

But to address what you said here: Do not have her be your tour guide. I've done that before and ended up regretting it. You are the man, you lead. I don't care if it's your first time in the country. You still act as if you know what's best. Trust me dude, even though it doesn't make sense logically, this is what the girl wants on an emotional level.

I suggest you do your research, find 2 spots nearby your house and ask her to meet you somewhere nearby and just be like "Hey, you like tea/beer/coffee/matcha? Cool, I just saw a cool spot on my way here, let's go check it out" and just lead.

Now, as for keeping the conversation going, I would recommend to make a list of 5-10 things that interest you and 5-10 interesting questions that you could ask her. Conversation skills are a whole thing to talk about but a simple formula is 1] ask question, 2] she answers, 3] you give your thoughts on what she said or tease her based on the answer she gave and 4] share your own perspective on the topic.

So, for example:

You: What is the most adventurous thing that you've done recently?

Her: I went bungee jumping! It was a lot of fun.

You: Oh fuck yeah. I always wanted to do that. Not gonna lie, I thought for a second you would be the type that says 'oh, I once snuck out of detention' or something, so I'm glad you did something *actually* adventurous, haha.

Her: Hahahah, what about you?

You: Coming to Thailand is definitely up there.. etc etc

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Don't overthink it, though. If the girl likes you - which she clearly does if she's going on a date with you - she will carry some of the conversational load as well, so don't fall into the mindset that you need to entertain her. This is a two way street.

As far as flirting goes, that is a biiiiig topic as well. The basic idea behind effective flirting is that you want to talk to her as if you're evaluating a future relationship with her either in the positive or negative. So, for example:

Her: I looove to dance salsa!

You: I knew there was something off about you..

Her: Whaat?! What do you mean?

You: My mom told me to stay away from salsa girls, they're too dangerous

That's an example of you playfully disqualifying her for dating. Here's a positive example:

Her: [Talks about something she's very passionate about]

You: Okay ... You need to stop talking to me with all this passion cause I'm gonna fall in love with you and I'm way too busy in my life for that shit. So slow down please.

Her: hahahha

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I recommend that you come up with some flirtation lines of your own or just look some up online. I would honestly not worry too much about it though because this is a date from Tinder, so the girl already knows what's up. I would focus more on giving her very strong eye contact and glancing down at her lips every now and then when she speaks. Nothing fancy.

Now, when it comes to escalation and motioning for her to sit closer and stuff.. fam, this ain't rocket science. Literally say "come over here, I don't bite" and tap the free space between you on the bench. Then put your arm around her and just keep talking as if nothing crazy is happening. 

[Zenterus]

4 minutes ago, fopylo said:

@Zenterus yo I might use it 😂.

And like while you walk, do you hold hands?

The thing is that on one hand I also don't want to make the girl feel awkward by not doing any move and not touching her at all.

Do what feels natural. I personally wouldn't hold her hand but if the girl gives you a very warm hug, you can go for it.