Before Epstein...

[Ishanga]

Have You guys seen this.. She spills the beans on lots of famous names, she involved before Epstein, way back in the early 70's..

Basically there is a cabal, tons of $$ spent on image, they use blackmail and other means to control each other, the real power is not with the policticans, they are owned by the cabal... 

Maybe Dr Jiang is absolutely correct...

 

[Ishanga]

Interesting Correlations..

 

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Ishanga said:

 

 

This interview was a disaster.

My God, PBD has such MAGA brain-rot.

Can you imagine the irony? Defending Trump -- friend of Epstein and convicted rapist -- to a pedo rape victim? This is a new low.

Edited 18 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Ishanga]

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

This interview was a disaster.

My God, PBD has such MAGA brain-rot.

Can you imagine the irony? Defending Trump -- friend of Epstein and convicted rapist -- to a pedo rape victim? This is a new low.

Yeah he seemed like a defence lawyer attitude which was strange, they roasted him in the comment section although at the end he does say something nice things...

Its crazy how this sort of thing, what she is talking about, and now with recent movie releases about this issue of child sex traffiking and such, you never hear about it in the news...and I couldn't believe the names she said, like P Trudeau and Rockefeller, like she said Trudeau wanted to kill her to get satisfied, absolute nuts, this is never on the media which says allot of what is what..

a more compassionate interviewer here...

 

[Hojo]

Him making her tell names she said not to say is fked up. 

Hes like before the show we talked about names we wont say, but it was this guy. wtf

I think she was saying marilyn monroe was part of it.

We as people are so much better than our older relatives. They were all fucked up kid fuckers

Edited 17 hours ago by Hojo

[Ishanga]

24 minutes ago, Hojo said:

Him making her tell names she said not to say is fked up. 

Hes like before the show we talked about names we wont say, but it was this guy. wtf

I think she was saying marilyn monroe was part of it.

We as people are so much better than our older relatives. They were all fucked up kid fuckers

first its about her not him, forget PBD.. See how the drama changes your focus? She went thru hell, where is the sympathy and understanding for what she went thru, plus it is still happening today for Her, she's been threatened, but the focus is on PBD and how he treated her, doesn't make sense..

I didn't see anything about MM, but probably yeah she could have been a part of it, but it seems she was told old for that, they like children...

[Ishanga]

Jiang going thru details, Epstein files and emails and how it is relevant today, same shit is still happening no one cares, its Xmas time time to go shopping, sick!!

 

[Hojo]

@IshangaI dont care who its about I take the information and forget all names. How do you know where my focus was and where my focus changed to? Are you telling me what to focus on?

She said there was a very iconic woman. Shes the most iconic.

Edited 17 hours ago by Hojo

[Jannes]

I enjoyed the beginning where he didnt interrupt her. Its unbelievable how cringe and pathetic he was. 

[Ishanga]

13 minutes ago, Jannes said:

I enjoyed the beginning where he didnt interrupt her. Its unbelievable how cringe and pathetic he was. 

What about her and what she was sharing, is that not what the video is about, or is it about PBD and his interview style?
 

I don't get it, she's talking about a world wide network of sex traffickers using children as sex slaves and spy's to elites that we know about, famous ppl like Trudeau and all everyone talks about is PBD and his interview style, I just don't understand how ppl find that important when the context of the video is as important as it is!

[Jannes]

30 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

What about her and what she was sharing, is that not what the video is about, or is it about PBD and his interview style?
 

I don't get it, she's talking about a world wide network of sex traffickers using children as sex slaves and spy's to elites that we know about, famous ppl like Trudeau and all everyone talks about is PBD and his interview style, I just don't understand how ppl find that important when the context of the video is as important as it is!

Yeah I said I enjoyed the beginning part until he questioned her believabability and made it about all kinds of political topics completly getting off topic. Didnt you feel the vibe shift after an hour or so?

Well his interview style is almost more important to focus on because he prevents further information to come out with this interview style. Which victim would like to be a guest on his show after watching this?

Imagine the journey she took on to come to this podcast after 30 years of trauma work and he is about to fucking question and gaslight her. It has its place but I feel like it didnt come from a place of genuinely looking for truth but by fearing that it would hurt his political position. 

That being said yes its incredible what she has revealed in that interview up to that point. I appreciate how she could articulate what was going on inside her from a higher perspective and her perspective of the people in the circle. You dont get this kind of information anywhere else basically. 

[Ishanga]

6 minutes ago, Jannes said:

Yeah I said I enjoyed the beginning part until he questioned her believabability and made it about all kinds of political topics completly getting off topic. Didnt you feel the vibe shift after an hour or so?

Well his interview style is almost more important to focus on because he prevents further information to come out with this interview style. Which victim would like to be a guest on his show after watching this?

Imagine the journey she took on to come to this podcast after 30 years of trauma work and he is about to fucking question and gaslight her. It has its place but I feel like it didnt come from a place of genuinely looking for truth but by fearing that it would hurt his political position. 

That being said yes its incredible what she has revealed in that interview up to that point. I appreciate how she could articulate what was going on inside her from a higher perspective and her perspective of the people in the circle. You dont get this kind of information anywhere else basically. 

Ok, the 2nd link I shared is a much better interview and interviewer, more compassion shown for sure...

[Jannes]

When she will reveal some of the names of people still alive they will put all their energy and power into trying to stop her. She has a gun to their heads with that story and half a gun to the head of the people who support these stars as their identity is attatched to them. So of course they wont go down without a fight to the death. She has every reason to be afraid. Only the moral fabric of society can protect her and that is not a guarentee. 

[LordFall]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

This interview was a disaster.

My God, PBD has such MAGA brain-rot.

Can you imagine the irony? Defending Trump -- friend of Epstein and convicted rapist -- to a pedo rape victim? This is a new low.

At least he had the wherewithal to shoot this and platform her to share this story to the world. It's really almost a meme that billionaire pedophile rings are all over the world, it's the most pure manifestation of humanity's corruption there could be. It makes sense that this is the final boss of our rule of law system that has never been solved until now but hopefully will soon be with blockchain and AI. 

 

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, LordFall said:

now but hopefully will soon be with blockchain and AI. 

This will solve nothing.

[LordFall]

@Leo Gura How do you figure that massively effective technology that can be used for transparency at a lower cost than legacy system technologies will have no effect on corruption in the world?

• Data science has massively reduced crime rates, with 38% reduction reported in NYC when programs were launched. 
• CCTV cameras have reduced crime rates in areas they're installed by 10-20% singlehandedly 
• Electric street lights from the 1880s have reduced outdoor crime rates by 36% in comparative studies

There are plenty of innovations in the past that have drastically improved the practice of law enforcement and the science of criminology.

I don't understand why your assumptions on the future of tech is continuously so bleak. Of course it's not a magic pill but blockchain is the technological infrastructure we need to put transparency in government. It's fundamentally a public database, of course that's gonna help with our governance systems globally. 

[Leo Gura]

Right now AI is the corruption.

It isn't grounded in truth or goodness, it is grounded in hype and grabbing power.

Corruption is not a lack of technology, it is an improper relationship to truth and reality.

How is AI going to stop billionaire sex perverts?

AI will give billionaires even more power.

Edited 12 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Ishanga]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Right now AI is the corruption.

It isn't grounded in truth or goodness, it is grounded in hype and grabbing power.

Corruption is not a lack of technology, it is an improper relationship to truth and reality.

How is AI going to stop billionaire sex perverts?

AI will give billionaires even more power.

Yes, Prof Jiang also states this with his theories, AI is not about personal empowerment or betterment of society (LLM's are not AI, they are just chat bots and data recycling), its about Global Tracking and Control of the citizens of the World, because the elites want to stabilize control as more chaos comes forth in the next years...

 

Edited 12 hours ago by Ishanga

[LordFall]

AI is bottom up just as its top to bottom. It fundamentally empowers the individual and gives us each much more leverage

19 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

How is AI going to stop billionaire sex perverts?

AI will give billionaires even more power.

I just put this into grok: 

how many billlionaires globally are accused of having ties to sex trafficking, can you name them all and make a list of the accusations by order of credibility and burden of proof: 

It gave me this list and then the list of the accusations that are pretty long so I'll just leave the names 

- Peter Nygård
- Sean "Diddy" Combs
- Leon Black
- Henry Jarecki
- Hassanal Bolkiah (Sultan of Brunei)
- Glenn Dubin
- Tom Pritzker
- Les Wexner
- Donald Trump

If I really wanted to I could make a much more detailed prompt that includes specific vague accusations on the european nobility as the woman shared here and get nitty gritty and I'm sure it would produce 100-200 names if I put it through all the LLMs out there. Let alone if I had a budget and built my own specialized small language model specifically as an investigative tool to track pedophiles globally and gather data on them publicly. I can then use OSINT skills

And web scraping tools to gather all the information on the internet available on these individuals(and increase the list further) and then publish that en masse on domains that can't be taken down and burner social media accounts. I could start basically my own investigative journalism firm to expose all these criminal billionaires for very little money like less than $20k and eventually pursue cases in major jurisdictions globally as many other organizations are.

The tech tools just allows this leverage to happen for much cheaper to its like drone warfare vs tanks. The cost to defend against yourself against an accusation vs  the cost to accuse someone has been trending infinitely up. It would've taken 20 years to put a case together against one of these men 20 years ago. Now it takes like 5 minutes and can be built deeper infinitely basically. 

Especially if you consider that the fabric of reality is built on truth then it makes sense that this dichotomy is built by design and thought of by God long ago. 

I'm a big believer that this will escalate to us getting rid of crime globally in a sort of smart contract surveillance state in the next 20 years. I think obviously there's a lot of nuance to it but if you look at the trend of history that's the way things are going. It's the worst time in history to commit crimes, I say that you will be caught certainly in a predictable curve over time scaling towards 100% in the next 15 years. The fact that the governments globally are themselves unethical and criminal is gonna be an obvious hindrance to this system but that hasn't stopped progress so far so neither will it here. 

You see it already the curve is pretty high up with multiple high profile victims of major crimes going on multiple hour long podcasts to tens of millions of viewers worldwide about their testimonies. As an criminal that's a nightmare scenario. Not that long ago before television victims of crimes were 99% silenced. Now it's like 80% silenced. And eventually it'll trend to 0% more and more.

That's why I think Patrick here is being a massive force for good. It's unfortunate that his dense ego and whole paradigm of reality doesn't allow him more compassion for the victim in person but the fact that he does recognize and address that this is a huge problem in our world today and he consciously wants to use his platform to bring light to this issue shows his general at least ethical orientation towards order.  

Edited 11 hours ago by LordFall

[Breathe]

3 hours ago, Jannes said:

That being said yes its incredible what she has revealed in that interview up to that point. I appreciate how she could articulate what was going on inside her from a higher perspective and her perspective of the people in the circle. You dont get this kind of information anywhere else basically. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_J._Spence

Craig Spence was basically the "Epstein" before Epstein. Same thing, a global, criminal elite network of pedophiles and traffickers. Bugged gatherings, blackmail, etc. Like Epstein, he also "committed suicide" right when the CIA was called to testify.

Sarah Kendzior writes extensively about Epstein in "Hiding in Plain Sight" and Spence in "They Knew". She references all of her sources in both books.

The information is out there hence the title of the first book. But Trump ran in criminal circles with the mob and corrupt lawyers and anyone who tried to come forth was either killed or blackmailed.

It's all fucked.

Edited 11 hours ago by Breathe