The Linux Experience

[Hezbollah]

I'll buy those M series one MacOS for like §5000 a piece.

[AION]

5 hours ago, something_else said:

I used to think MacOS sucked as well, but after switching to it for work a few years back I'd never return to Windows. I don't want adverts and Microsoft spyware baked into my OS.

MacOS extremely popular among creative people and software engineers, and for good reason. It's really good for productivity. Especially on machines with the new M series chips, MacOS is insanely good.

Pretty much the only thing it sucks for is running games. Or if you have some specific or obscure ancient software you need to run, but even then, you can dual boot Windows on a Mac or use a virtual machine.

I don't see how MacOS is good for productivity. For example when I have multiple chrome browsers open, it is a hurdle to find the right windows and tabs because in MacOS you can't see which browser window contains what. In windowsOS you can easily see this. Another even bigger productivity issue is that in MacOS doesn't fully support Microsoft apps like Onenote and Excel, it lacks in features and is more buggy.

Perhaps if you only use apps for MacOS, you might have a better experience but I don't want to pay for all that bullshit when I already have my own suite. But even if I paid for it. The task bar management in MacOS is awful. It is everything but productive for me. But I'm glad it works for you.

Macbook is basically a iPad with a keyboard (without touchpad). It works for certain people. But for people who are very technical and need a lot of tabs it doesn't work. I have a macbook right now and I will bring it back to the store.

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[CARDOZZO]

22 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

Why that distro? How does it differ from the others? 

It was related to specific packages/licenses/compatibility with Cadence software tools.

How does it differ from the others? 

It is binary-compatible with RHEL.

Edited 22 hours ago by CARDOZZO

[something_else]

54 minutes ago, AION said:

I don't see how MacOS is good for productivity. For example when I have multiple chrome browsers open, it is a hurdle to find the right windows and tabs because in MacOS you can't see which browser window contains what. In windowsOS you can easily see this.

It just takes getting used to, there are different ways to do things compared to Windows.

And you can absolutely do this on Mac. Swipe up with 3 fingers on the touch pad into what MacOS calls Mission Control, then you can see every single window and its contents. This is the equivalent to the Task View you're thinking of on Windows, but IMO it's better. It certainly feels smoother.

You can also access this by pressing the F3 button on most modern macbooks.

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Another even bigger productivity issue is that in MacOS doesn't fully support Microsoft apps like Onenote and Excel, it lacks in features and is more buggy.

I mean fair enough, it makes sense that OneNote and Excel would both work better on a Microsoft OS. However as far as I know Excel works almost identically on Mac beyond one or two complex features. I've heard OneNote is a bit more temperamental. My company uses the google suite for everything which is identical on both Mac or PC, I'm not super familiar with MS Office software as I haven't used it regularly in years.

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It works for certain people. But for people who are very technical and need a lot of tabs it doesn't work. I have a macbook right now and I will bring it back to the store.

I mean I'm a software engineer, at this very second I have 25 different windows open and about 20 chrome tabs across several chrome windows, I don't have an issue navigating. And I've never found any software I need for my technical job which didn't work on my Mac.

The window management takes a bit of getting used to, but I suspect the only reason you don't like it is because it's not what you're used to. Technically it can do everything Windows can do.

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Macbook is basically a iPad with a keyboard (without touchpad)

I could not even come close to doing my job on an iPad. iPads barely even have a filesystem, and they definitely don't have a terminal. In fact access to a Unix terminal is one of the things that makes a Mac so desirable for software engineers. Powershell on Windows is a shitshow by comparison.

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[UnbornTao]

12 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

But can it run Crysis?

https://www.protondb.com/search?q=crysis

I've been running Morrowind with 600+ mods on Mint, some even report better performance on Linux.

Btw, the Steam Deck runs a version of Arch Linux.

OBS, Blender, Da Vinci Resolve. 

Edited 20 hours ago by UnbornTao

[UnbornTao]

11 hours ago, Ramasta9 said:

Yeah I had to double check, I don't understand the technical stuff too much, I just couldn't stand or do windows anymore, it was too rigid and limited.

Ahh, got it. Do you game on it?

[UnbornTao]

11 hours ago, mmKay said:

Boii don't even get me started 

Video should be called :

POV: you're reclaiming your Tech Sovereignty

[UnbornTao]

1 hour ago, CARDOZZO said:

It was related to specific packages/licenses/compatibility with Cadence software tools.

How does it differ from the others? 

It is binary-compatible with RHEL.

Thanks for answering.

Edited 21 hours ago by UnbornTao

[UnbornTao]

11 hours ago, AION said:

Linux is ok but it doesn't run the apps I need.

It is still better than macOS.

But Windows will always stay king because of app support.

Yeah, it's hard to beat the backwards compatibility of Windows. And with Linux, not every piece of hardware is supported by it.

macOS is also Unix-based, whatever that means. @something_else mentioned this point.

[UnbornTao]

13 hours ago, Raphael said:

Linux is great for developers. It's my main operating system and I have been using it for more than 10 years now, I don't need anything else. I almost never use Windows or OSX.

I can already sense that you use Arch, btw.

Edited 18 hours ago by UnbornTao

[UnbornTao]

9 hours ago, Basman said:

I don't feel like Linux is quiet there just yet, but it's getting closer. I honestly look forward to dump Windows one day for a less bloated, younger and sexier OS.

For many, it's already there, but of course it depends on your use case. This doesn't entirely eliminate the need for tinkering and troubleshooting, though.

[Basman]

7 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

For many, it's already there, but of course it depends on your use case. This doesn't entirely eliminate the need for tinkering and troubleshooting, though.

It's needs to be stupid easy and play all games in existence without fuss. 

[something_else]

11 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

macOS is also Unix-based, whatever that means. @something_else mentioned this point.

It’s good for developers, you get a very powerful terminal. That’s the main benefit. For an average non-technical user it doesn’t really matter

[UnbornTao]

Just now, Basman said:

It's needs to be stupid easy and play all games in existence without fuss. 

That doesn't even happen on Windows  

But you're right, Windows is still the dominant platform for gaming.

[UnbornTao]

5 minutes ago, something_else said:

It’s good for developers, you get a very powerful terminal. That’s the main benefit. For an average non-technical user it doesn’t really matter

've got Homebrew installed and manage packages with it. Im not sure it has anything to do with macOS being Unix-based, but it's quite convenient. That's as far as my knowledge of the terminal on macOS goes.

Edited 20 hours ago by UnbornTao

[Joseph Maynor]

I explored Linux.  It's just really cumbersome as to the apps.

[UnbornTao]

7 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I explored Linux.  It's just really cumbersome as to the apps.

It depends. Which apps, and what distro? Expecting it to work like Windows will lead to dissapointment, in some aspects.

I'd familiarize myself with this article and video: https://christitus.com/windows-to-linux/

Adobe, Office, and certain very niche software don't work on Linux. But there may be alternatives - perhaps not as polished, depending on your needs.

Edited 20 hours ago by UnbornTao

[AION]

@something_else thanks for the tips. I’m going to try out MacBook for one more week and then see. I use Mission Control but the thing is that not all tabs show in Mission Control. Especially if you minimized them. So there are always some ghost windows lurking in macOS. And the only way to see them is by right clicking the icon and then guessing which window you need from chrome because the title doesn’t show the website name. Another thing: If I have multiple desktops open on the system and press on an app it switches to the desktop where the app is open instead of opening a new window of that app. But there are ways around that to open multiple windows of the same app but then it just gets to messy if you have a lot of things open. I talked with AI about this and it says I just need to get use to the Mac way which in my eyes is bothersome. I like the build quality and such although I heard it breaks down all the time. 

[UnbornTao]

 

 

[Ramasta9]

2 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

Ahh, got it. Do you game on it?

No sir, I quit gaming a while ago. I decided to play the game of real life  Chop wood, carry water ~