Obama on why men fall into red pill and are struggling

[Raze]

God I hate Obama so much. When he isn’t using many words to say nothing he just calmly repeats what people have been screaming at him for decades as though it’s his own genius but years too late for him to actually change things and no serious suggestion on how to actually ever change it, often just redirecting the conversation to a different unrelated issue right after.

Edited 3 hours ago by Raze

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

2 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Originally it was just raising women to the same level of opportunity as men. You can want this for women as a man. Killing mens confidence isn't a major objective of feminism.

I think you are actually referring to misandry, not feminism. Male misandry exists and is pretty common. And it does destroy men's natural confidence and masculinity when it manifests.

Feminism is synanomous with misandry nowadays, if you as a woman uncritically believe everything feminists will preach, then the logical outcome of that will be misandry.

I genuinely think it is a major objective. They keep talking about entitlement and how you're harmfull for doing X and Y, in practical terms it essentially means you can't be confident in anything you do. It's impossible. At best you could be some spineless dude who gets trampled over, granted you could be that without being a feminist of course, but feminism caps confidence at bottom levels. If you are a confident dude killin it in dating and identify as a feminist then you're just lying to get some bonus points, whatever that could mean idk

[Natasha Tori Maru]

7 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Feminism is synanomous with misandry nowadays, if you as a woman uncritically believe everything feminists will preach, then the logical outcome of that will be misandry.

I genuinely think it is a major objective. They keep talking about entitlement and how you're harmfull for doing X and Y, in practical terms it essentially means you can't be confident in anything you do. It's impossible. At best you could be some spineless dude who gets trampled over, granted you could be that without being a feminist of course, but feminism caps confidence at bottom levels. If you are a confident dude killin it in dating and identify as a feminist then you're just lying to get some bonus points, whatever that could mean idk

That's cool if you feel that way. But it's a limiting belief at its core. And a fundamental misunderstanding.

Edited 2 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Hojo]

@NewKidOnTheBlockYes feminism is why we are in this spot. You cant be a meninist either because feminist lose their minds if you say that. They have the double edged sword on everything, especially things that push the movement down a peg. If you try to push a feminist down a peg its instantly sexist.

If feminist and meninist are the same thing on opposite ends of a line you can see it clearly that anytime one side pulls the other has to die. Thats why its toxic for men. The feminist wont see this because they are pulling in the opposite direction.

Meninist arent allowed to exist to feminists. But feminists created the line therefore meninist have to exist. If they dont feminist devolves into devilry which is where its going as we can see it from how men are feeling.

You see you state an opinion to the feminist and you are labled as a having limited beliefs and fundamental misunderstandings. They will say these things without explanation or logic to back it up.

Feminism is a misunderstanding and limiting belief system.

Edited 2 hours ago by Hojo

[Natasha Tori Maru]

You guys are confused. Conflating feminism and misandry. 

They can look alike but not the same. 

Look into it 😊

[Hojo]

@Natasha Tori MaruFeminism without meninism is misandry, you are the confused one.

Edited 2 hours ago by Hojo

[Natasha Tori Maru]

5 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Natasha Tori MaruFeminism without meninism is misandry, you are the confused one.

Look em up 

[Hojo]

@Natasha Tori MaruEvery movement and group that is created with no separate thing on the other end to keep it in check keeps going beyond its necessity and causes harm to its opposite un created end. Feminism without meninism will automatically become misandry.

Edited 1 hour ago by Hojo

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

That's cool if you feel that way. But it's a limiting belief at its core. And a fundamental misunderstanding.

Every movement in history evolves from it's original roots, today labeling yourself as a feminist because you believe women should choose their own destiny instead of being attached to the kitchen as an appliance by default, would be like labeling yourself an oxygenist because you breath oxygen, realistically nowadays nobody would actually want to return to the way division of labour between men and women was like during Industrial Revolution all the way to 20th century (regardless of how much they like the idea of it). Because there's too much comfort and dopamine, the world has became too complex, and cost of living is way too high relative to wages so virtually no man would be able to embody the breadwinner role again. The moment material circumstances started to change for the human species was the moment women got all their rights and autonomies, so I wouldn't really attribute these to feminism. We've been swimming in these waters for a long time now and we aren't going back, so what I'm reacting to really is everything from 3d way feminism and onwards

Edited 1 hour ago by NewKidOnTheBlock

[Ramasta9]

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@NewKidOnTheBlock @Hojo you guys so silly 😊

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

1 hour ago, Hojo said:

@NewKidOnTheBlockYes feminism is why we are in this spot. You cant be a meninist either because feminist lose their minds if you say that. They have the double edged sword on everything, especially things that push the movement down a peg. If you try to push a feminist down a peg its instantly sexist.

If feminist and meninist are the same thing on opposite ends of a line you can see it clearly that anytime one side pulls the other has to die. Thats why its toxic for men. The feminist wont see this because they are pulling in the opposite direction.

Meninist arent allowed to exist to feminists. But feminists created the line therefore meninist have to exist. If they dont feminist devolves into devilry which is where its going as we can see it from how men are feeling.

You see you state an opinion to the feminist and you are labled as a having limited beliefs and fundamental misunderstandings. They will say these things without explanation or logic to back it up.

Feminism is a misunderstanding and limiting belief system.

I don't believe that it is a fault of feminism that we are "in this place", whatever that means, as I believe feminism is just a byproduct of higher complexity of life coupled with increasing amounts of comfort. It is valid in allowing women to choose their life path, but somewhere along the way clearly mutated into man hate. I mean, it's so obvious.

Also there's no such thing as meninism obviously

[Hojo]

@NewKidOnTheBlock yes there is i created it. Its the opposite side of feminism for the sake of balance.

Why did maga get out of control? Because there's not opposite force to make America terrible again.

When this happens maga must make America terrible again contradictively.

Without meninism feminism becomes its own destructive force. It becomes the matriarchy. Im helping feminist from devolving into delusion and misandry by creating meninism.

Edited 24 minutes ago by Hojo