"Purging" , "energetic release", regular vomit ?

[Loveeee]

New age bs or is there a deeper meaning the words are trying to model ? 

[Ramasta9]

3 hours ago, Loveeee said:

New age bs or is there a deeper meaning the words are trying to model ? 

Its both, its always both. What happens physically always has a spiritual / energetic counterpart, vice/versa.

When I first did mushrooms i didn't physically vomit but i felt a strong urge to shake my body and force my fingers down my throat to cause a gag reflex and i saw in my 3rd eye a large energetic parasite leave my body, and then i felt wonderful and more free shortly after, and my face and cheeks were red again after being pale and sick for a long time because these parasites or entities were blocking the the flow of energy and that's why we get sick.

What i got from it overall was these energies feed on us, drain us, are attracted to trauma, pain, anger and anything of a lower vibration, especially emotional energy, and when energy doesn't flow or is stagnant or blocked they can latch on and contribute to more blockage, and the medicine helped me release the body and blockage where higher energy or charge started to flow again, thus the body was now vibrating much higher frequency, so those parasitic forms or energies could no longer latch on or continue to feed, so they leave / dissolve.

Almost everyone has some form of energy blockage that's keeping you from your greatest potential.

Edited 18 hours ago by Ramasta9

[Leo Gura]

Mostly BS.

Shamans need a way to rationalize to themselves why they aren't taking pure chemicals. So they romanticisize it.

[max duewel]

@Leo Gura No, its literally puking out stuck energy in your system.. Sometimes people puke becuase their stomach is too weak

[Ramasta9]

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Mostly BS.

Shamans need a way to rationalize to themselves why they aren't taking pure chemicals. So they romanticisize it.

That's the fragmentation from chemical abuse talking

Edited 6 hours ago by Ramasta9

[Ramasta9]

Shamans aren't avoiding "pure chemicals." They're working with whole systems, plant, spirit, psyche, body, and the environment.

A chemical gives you the signal. The plant gives you the signal + the intelligence + the direction + the integration.

When we overload the system with such intense psychedelics like 5‑MeO, the nervous system cannot integrate the experiences. That overwhelm cause parts of the emotional and psychological self to "disconnect," leaving one cold, dissociated, and mentally inflated.

Instead of becoming more whole, one splits further, and the ego grabs the peak experiences and builds a superiority identity around them. So what looks like enlightenment is actually a fragmented, ungrounded nervous system trying to appear awakened.

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Nature didn't just make a chemical; it made a whole ecosystem of intelligence, guidance, and integration. Plants like ayahuasca, psilocybin mushrooms, Peyote, or San Pedro aren't isolated molecules, they're living teachers. They carry energetic signatures tuned to human biology and consciousness.

They have built-in safety mechanisms (slow onset, body cues, purges, nausea, shaking) that guide the nervous system to release what's stuck. They provide emotional and spiritual scaffolding: they show you what's inside in a symbolic, integrative way, thus a natural rhythm for processing trauma, energy, and emotion.

Synthetic versions, even if chemically identical, lack this intelligence. They hit the nervous system like a hammer, there's no guidance, no subtle messaging, no slow, integrative unfolding. That's why people can get overwhelmed, dissociated, or falsely "enlightened" with lab-made molecules.

Nature has been perfecting this stuff for billions of years... its probably wise to recognize this.

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Ramasta9

[Holymoly]

I remember martin ball talking about people puking he worked with them