Talking to Atheist

[Inliytened1]

50 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Exactly, what you are being is an energetic node created from countless structural layers of reality called the human self or if you prefer, the experience. it is a manifestation of reality, and as such, it is the essence of reality manifesting itself.

 

No..there is just the thought of the cat.  Mind is thinking of a cat.  You are piling a lot of additional layers on things.  Enlightenment is not opening up any tension it is dissolution of the self that thinks there is someone thinking of a cat.  And that dissolution can only happen with pure nowness.  

[Breakingthewall]

53 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

No..there is just the thought of the cat.  Mind is thinking of a cat.  You are piling a lot of additional layers on things.  Enlightenment is not opening up any tension it is dissolution of the self that thinks there is someone thinking of a cat.  And that dissolution can only happen with pure nowness.  

Enlightened is being open to your true nature now, it's an energetic shift. Now I'm not enlightened, but this morning I was "enlightened" a couple of hours and this afternoon just a while. 

Enlightenment is when form becomes tenuous, like a transparent hologram, and essence manifests. Essence is neither love nor will; it is total openness, which is not "something," but you are that. You cannot define it; you could say it is the potential that contains everything without being anything, without dimension or quality, but still is total. 

Then form becomes non-essential, irrelevant. Experience is irrelevant; it is simply a possibility that is equivalent to any other. Simply ceaseless change on the surface and total, immutable "depth" at its core. And the most shocking is that being conscious or unconscious is also irrelevant, you open your heart to death because it's the same than life. Not to another life, to absence of consciousness. It's the same than consciousness. 

Then in that state, or energetic structure, this depth is everything, you are that, it's not someone, not a center, it's sat chit Ananda. Sat, what is. Chit, evident, that stands out, Ananda, the total freedom, the perfect "happiness" without stain , maybe better total absence of contraction of the unlimited 

Then from the human structure, that's is very deep, alive, connected, you can understand what is the structure of the movement, why it is happening, because the human structure is open to the openess then it's obvious that the openess makes inevitable the infinite unfolding of the form.

But one thing is the flow and another the substance. Not in the sense of they are separate but in the sense that are two different aspects of the reality. You can't understand the essence because "understand" is form, but you can understand the form. The form is relation without end, and there is not a creator, it's inevitable because there are not limits. God is the absence of limits that is same time openness that is and infinite unfolding of change in infinite dimensions, without end. 

Then you see clearly that if your human form ends, you are the totality, it's not like : after I'm going to live another life. "After" only has meaning from this form. Understanding only has meaning from the human structure, really it is absolutely irrelevant, means absolutely nothing, but as a human it's absolutely fascinating.

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Edited 1 hour ago by Breakingthewall