Reverse osmosis water - dangerous

[integral]

So this stuff is toxic. It is not safe to drink unless you carefully re-mineralize it.

If you drink straight reverse osmosis water without re-mineralization, you will get dryness of mouth, especially when sleeping and constipation. It could also trigger IBS and chronic digestion problems it also lowers thyroid hormone.

I've personally thoroughly experimented on this and done a lot of research. There's lots of people who have very similar issues with drinking it without mineralization. Main problem is constipation, IBS and dryness of mouth.

So I'm writing this as a warning if you're thinking of getting that purest water possible.

There's some good re-mineralization options, but I don't know exactly how effective they are and they likely add toxins back into the water sort of defeating the purpose.

So the goal is to re-mineralize without adding the toxins back in. Just using salt for for example, first of all, doesn't give you the minerals you need and also salt is just boiled down water so you're drinking concentrated toxins and mineral drops have the same concentration of toxin problem. Most re-mineralization attempts defeats the purpose of the RO.

This looks like a better alternative, but I haven't tested it. Re-mineralization filter. And it's criminally expensive.

The biggest misconception is that you get enough nutrients from food and so the water nutrients don't matter, this is absolutely wrong. Do not believe this for a second.

The water you're drinking, impacts your body at a much higher level than food does. An air quality impacts your body at a much higher level than water does.

AIR > WATER > FOOD

Edited Thursday at 03:18 PM by integral

[integral]

Drinking strait reverse osmosis water will hammer your thyroid levels. It's so toxic and of course if you go to a doctor, they're just gonna give you drugs because they're not trained to investigate any part of your life or form any meaningful connections to understand the problem.

And it should be obvious that it will heavily impact your mental health.

Edited Thursday at 03:33 PM by integral

[Leo Gura]

Dude, every good RO system has remineralization. It is not a problem.

I have been recommending this from day one. It is not expensive.

The mineral is usually calcium.

Edited yesterday at 03:17 AM by Leo Gura

[Natasha Tori Maru]

We built a Dialysis centre 2 years back.

The biggest parts of the build were the R/O water loops, which is key to dialysis treatment. 

In addition, we have built R/O loops for lab research areas and sterilizing medical equipment (used for autoclaves).

The guys who we commissioned to build the loops, the doctors and the engineers at the hospitals were aware it wasn't optimal for humans to drink.

All of them mentioned essential minerals the human body needed the R/O water couldn't provide.

This gave me the impression it was known R/O water was missing essential components.

This is not to say I know medical professionals are aware R/O water needs remineralisation, but it leads me to believe it is not as unknown as me might think. Maybe GP's do not know. But nurses/doctors and people working in acute and chronic hospital care seem to be very aware of this.

[Ramasta9]

You can add shilajit to the water or marine phytoplankton for essential trace minerals and also can leave in the sun for few hours to energize and enliven the water. Ideally fresh spring water is best but not everyone is close to a pristine clear water source.

[Something Funny]

@Natasha Tori Maru@integral

You know that the minerals you get from drinking water are a tiny fraction of what you get from your food, right?

It's like 1% of your current daily mineral intake, lol.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 minute ago, Something Funny said:

@Natasha Tori Maru@integral

You know that the minerals you get from drinking water are a tiny fraction of what you get from your food, right?

It's like 1% of your current daily mineral intake, lol.

What does this have to do with my post? 

Nothing I said would lead one to make that assumption 

[Something Funny]

3 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

All of them mentioned essential minerals the human body needed the R/O water couldn't provide.

I was referring to this. Imo, this argument is irrelevant.

And you didn't mention any other reasons for why RO water might be "sub-optimal"

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Just now, Something Funny said:

I was referring to this. Imo, this argument is irrelevant.

And you didn't mention any other reasons for why RO water might be "sub-optimal"

The discussions I had about the R/O loops were just in the context of the water alone. 

I am not making an argument in my post - I just thought it was a good bit of info to add as I had some crossover experience with reverse osmosis as it is in medical fields.

[Something Funny]

@Natasha Tori Marui see

[Leo Gura]

You can also buy a mineral drops supplement specifically for putting into your water.

Look:

https://a.co/d/hMdwHQV

Edited yesterday at 08:32 AM by Leo Gura

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Something Funny Kinda makes me wonder if you could fuck yourself up if you fasted + pounded R/O water.

I am guessing it would flush ones system out of homeostasis.

My fasts only ever go to 72hrs and I replace salt + electrolytes 

 

[Ramasta9]

36 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

@Natasha Tori Maru@integral

You know that the minerals you get from drinking water are a tiny fraction of what you get from your food, right?

It's like 1% of your current daily mineral intake, lol.

The issue is that water with (zero dissolved solids) has very low conductivity. Conductivity affects how water interacts with cell membranes, how quickly it is absorbed, how it carries electrolyte and how it behaves in the body’s electromagnetic field.

Poor electricity = Poor communication = Poor hydration.

Short time it wont cause much issues but long term it will create imbalances physically and energetically which leads to malfunctions over time.

There is more than just physical science, there is other aspects that are often not acknowledged, and its not placebo, it’s physics + biology. Empty / dead water also absorbs everything, physical and energetic so not wise in polluted cities.

So yes, it is important to mimic natural springs and rain water as close as possible for optimal hydration.

Otherwise you should be consuming adequate hydration through fresh fruits and vegetables, and coconuts ect..

Hope this helps.

 

 

Edited 23 hours ago by Ramasta9

[Elliott]

Electrolyte powders list their minerals and usually have the essentials.

"Several electrolyte powders are third-party tested for contaminants, including Transparent Labs Hydrate, Nuun Sport, and LMNT."

R.O. seems to be the most practical way to filter your water well.

Edited 12 hours ago by Elliott

[Hojo]

My town has reverse osmosis water its the best water I ever drank.

[integral]

14 hours ago, Something Funny said:

You know that the minerals you get from drinking water are a tiny fraction of what you get from your food, right?

This line of thinking is wrong and exactly why I made this post.

The way the body uses water is more sophisticated then that. It's not about your body storing nutrients and so you have enough of it. The water itself has to contain the nutrients preloaded and there's no exceptions. It doesn't simply "drain your body of nutrients" if you drink un-minirelaized RO. It's far worse than that.

I made this post to explain you need thorough re-mineralization or you gonna have symptoms.

18 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Dude, every good RO system has remineralization. It is not a problem.

I have been recommending this from day one. It is not expensive.

The mineral is usually calcium.

lol yes i explained its toxic without proper reminiralization and the basic reminiralizer isn't that good.

Improper remineralization causes severe health problems, digestion problems, and thyroid problems.

13 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You can also buy a mineral drops supplement specifically for putting into your water.

Look:

https://a.co/d/hMdwHQV

Yes, I explained that the mineral drops are a option but contain some toxins so that partially defeats the purpose of RO but it's probably still better than drinking tapwater.

The point of the post I made was RO is more complicated to drink than people realize. And to clear out the misconceptions.

Edited 10 hours ago by integral

[Leo Gura]

I don't see why drops are contaminated.

Those are common minerals which are easy to get in bulk pure quantities.

[integral]

32 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't see why drops are contaminated.

Those are common minerals which are easy to get in bulk pure quantities.

I agree you could find uncontaminated mineral drops and that would be great. But most of them are contaminated because there distilled from lakes and rivers. The one you mentioned ConcenTrace is contaminated apparently.

Quote

YES, ConcenTrace is contaminated. Independent 2025 lab testing found ALL major trace mineral drop brands exceed health guidelines for arsenic and/or lithium. ConcenTrace paid a $115,000 legal settlement in 2014 for lead contamination.

Why: Great Salt Lake has 150+ years of mining pollution that gets concentrated with the minerals. The contamination is inherent to the source.

Clean alternatives: Pharmaceutical-grade individual minerals (Pure Encapsulations, Thorne, Designs for Health) are substantially cleaner, though even these show trace heavy metals in independent testing.

Inherent Contaminants: Trace heavy metals, including Lead, Arsenic, and Mercury, are acknowledged by the manufacturer as being "naturally occurring" in the product due to the concentrated nature of the Great Salt Lake source material.  

https://claude.ai/public/artifacts/7234a43e-9352-4451-831e-b1643b891d73

 

[Hojo]

I asked gemini and it said if minerals are not put back in you will be able to tell as you will have hard water (dry/ hungry for attachment, basically not hydrating

If its soft water (hydrating, wet) it means it has minerals put back into it. 

So you can tell just by touching it.

If you shower with it and your skin turns dry its hard water if your skin becomes replenished its soft.

Corrosion and Infrastructure Protection

RO water is highly corrosive. When water is stripped of its dissolved solids and minerals, it becomes "hungry" and seeks to reach a balanced state (calco-carbonic equilibrium).

If this demineralized water is sent directly into the distribution pipes, its low pH and lack of calcium/alkalinity make it aggressive, causing it to leach metal ions (like lead and copper) from the pipes.

Remineralization (often by adding calcium carbonate, lime, or bicarbonate) is a standard, essential step in municipal RO treatment to stabilize the water, adjust the pH, and prevent corrosion of the distribution network.

Water Quality and Taste

Adding minerals back improves the taste and mouthfeel of the water, which would otherwise be "flat" or "bland" after RO filtration.

The re-addition of minerals like calcium and magnesium, known as remineralization, helps restore the water's natural, desirable characteristics.

 

So its saying they pretty much have to add minerals back into the water or the water will ruin their factory and the towns pipes, AND the people will complain of the shit water.

If you have bad water you will know its bad. You are 80 percent water. I have lived in places with very hard water and my skin dried out and I became more thirsty after I drank it and I knew the water sucked. The water will give you heartburn.

If your water is not being remineralized you will instantly know.

It should be illegal to not remineralize it.

Edited 3 hours ago by Hojo

[Leo Gura]

@integral Fair points. I will look into this deeper.

Thanks

Edited 3 hours ago by Leo Gura