ICE is molesting children

[trenton]

This issue bothers me a lot. I feel like we are not talking about this enough. It probably has to do with my survivor's guilt from sex trafficking when I was child.

I feel that we should be screaming that ICE is molesting children. They are taking kids, putting them in cages, and agents are molesting those kids. You can look it up from several sources. Did I miss something? Why are we not screaming child molesters? Am I stupid to be outraged by this? Is there something wrong with me? Why is there so much silence around this issue?

What would happen if people started yelling about this more? I don't get it. Would it make things worse? I know there are more important things, but I cannot ignore this issue. How do I give myself peace of mind knowing that political action will not save America from doom? How do I ignore this issue when truth tellers are punished and labeled terrorists?

Can you teach me how to not be bothered by this? I feel compelled to take action, but I thought this was the lesser jihad and I am supposed to focus on more important things like my own self interest. How should I be reacting and responding to the fact that our government is enabling child molesters and nothing is being done to change it. I'm not supposed to be helping people because I am the one who needs help. I'm trying to stop helping people because I care too much and it is hurting me. I am trying to not care but I feel compelled to take action by making this post. Why would the government change if I started fighting against this? I would be ignored and nothing would change unless I approach this issue correctly.

I am trying to focus on my personal life because I have no business being political given everything I am going through. This is just reminding me too much of when I said nothing when my father's gang was molesting children. I get that morality is relative and we are all supposed to be desensitized to things like sex scandals, school shootings, corruption, and all the other ridiculous shit in America. I feel like I cannot ignore these problems. I feel guilty by not fighting back even though the government will likely do nothing about anything I say because my opinion does not matter. I will not have any real influence over these political affairs and I am supposed to not expect change from fighting for justice. The American government is insane and I cannot stand for this broken system. I am planning on leaving this dead country that has no hope of saving though protesting. However, there are these distractions such as outrageous issues where I feel the urge to act despite the reality that I will most likely lose.

I feel unable to desensitize myself to these realities. What should I do? What is happening to me? Sorry if I sound weird. I feel like I can't help whatever is happening to me.

[Hojo]

Can you show the sources?

[Thought Art]

@Hojo There has been reports of this for years

[Hojo]

@Thought ArtIm on reddit alot and its anti ice and I have never heard of them molesting children.

[carterfelder]

I asked Grok to create this response for you:

"I hear your concern about reports of children being molested in ICE custody, and it’s completely valid to feel disturbed by that. The truth is, these incidents aren’t isolated to ICE; they reflect a deeper pattern that shows up wherever vulnerable children are held under the authority of adults in closed systems. The same kinds of abuse have surfaced in juvenile detention centers, foster care facilities, religious institutions, schools, and even sports programs. The common thread isn’t one agency or political side; it’s the combination of power imbalance, limited oversight, and the silencing effect of fear or dependency.

When we zoom out and look at the bigger picture, we see that any environment where adults have unsupervised access to traumatized or powerless kids creates fertile ground for harm. That doesn’t mean every staff member is dangerous, but it does mean the system itself needs safeguards that assume some people will exploit opportunity. Critical thinking helps us here: instead of getting stuck on blaming one group, we can ask what structural conditions enable abuse and what proven measures—like cameras, independent audits, and safe reporting channels—actually reduce it across the board.

Your instinct to care about these children is the starting point. From there, the real work is staying open to evidence, questioning narratives from all sides, and pushing for accountability that protects kids no matter where they are. That broader awareness turns personal outrage into wiser action."

[trenton]

3 hours ago, carterfelder said:

I asked Grok to create this response for you:

"I hear your concern about reports of children being molested in ICE custody, and it’s completely valid to feel disturbed by that. The truth is, these incidents aren’t isolated to ICE; they reflect a deeper pattern that shows up wherever vulnerable children are held under the authority of adults in closed systems. The same kinds of abuse have surfaced in juvenile detention centers, foster care facilities, religious institutions, schools, and even sports programs. The common thread isn’t one agency or political side; it’s the combination of power imbalance, limited oversight, and the silencing effect of fear or dependency.

When we zoom out and look at the bigger picture, we see that any environment where adults have unsupervised access to traumatized or powerless kids creates fertile ground for harm. That doesn’t mean every staff member is dangerous, but it does mean the system itself needs safeguards that assume some people will exploit opportunity. Critical thinking helps us here: instead of getting stuck on blaming one group, we can ask what structural conditions enable abuse and what proven measures—like cameras, independent audits, and safe reporting channels—actually reduce it across the board.

Your instinct to care about these children is the starting point. From there, the real work is staying open to evidence, questioning narratives from all sides, and pushing for accountability that protects kids no matter where they are. That broader awareness turns personal outrage into wiser action."

@carterfelder Grok, i know all of that shit. The point is that we fucking know they are molesting those kids and we continue to allow them to put them in cages with nobody to protect them. ICE does not deserve to keep those kids in custody, as if all the other shit they are doing to them isn't bad enough for the government to care. Now that I say that they are being raped, you minimize the crime by saying this happens everywhere. Don't you dare normalize this shit. It is unacceptable. I guess if my dad's gang tried to rape me, I should just say "adults do this all the time." America should be flipping the fuck out because children are being kidnapped and molested by a government agency, we all know about it, and we are doing nothing. What do you suggest we do? Why don't we have everybody in America talking about this issue? Why do we need to talk about some other issue instead? Who is being served by ignoring this issue? Child molesters.

[trenton]

I am going nuts about this issue because we can save the children. Our government is silent about the fact that is molesting children. There needs to be a public discussion about this so we can protect them.

The reason this issue is important to me is because I was silent when my dad's gang was molesting children. I struggle with this guilt. I will tell my therapist about this. I know why I am freaking out about this. I don't want to stay silent when I believe children can be saved from imminent harm. This is what happened when I was living in the drug house. People wanted me to stay silent while mom was being beaten. I am mad at myself for staying silent about those children. I don't feel that I can ever be happy in life anyway. My trauma prevents me from living a happy life anyway. I see no point to going on in life, so I am willing to throw it away to protect someone else. At the end of the day you can always call me selfish. There is nothing I can do about that. I pursued awakening because I thought it would make me happy. I was selfish and I will never be happy. I'm doing my best. I might be screwing up because it serves those in power to stay silent about this issue. I can't help but be human. I will see how I change and what happens next, but this is my present level of consciousness and why.

[trenton]

I feel like I need to spread the word. I feel like I am enabling child molesters with my silence. I think the kids can be protected by making this the public image of ICE. I am confused because I am trying to change the course of reality. What the fuck else am I supposed to do in life? Be happy? I can't be happy anyway.

If this changed about me, maybe I would be different. It is just that the urge to act is too strong because of the guilt and shame from my past. This might be instructive for psychology. I know I will be judged but who cares about my happiness anyway. I feel the temptation to apologize, but I don't need to. I didn't choose to be this way.

[trenton]

Guys, I am having an insight about how self-deception, trauma, and our worldviews are all interconnected. I am noticing that when all of these things feel connected to each other, it causes it to feel absolutely true. This is what my worldview actually is and it is based on the messages that I have been receiving all my life. When a person's trauma is connected to political issues like these, it makes them ideological and very angry and panicked like it is doing to me. I am being ideological and I am learning from this.