Decolonizing Veganism - Stage green cringe

[enchanted]

While everything they say is mostly true the speakers are the most stereotypical stage green examples I've every seen. It's worth watching for cringe and also the good information about cultures. It helps me understand my siblings who are all vegans, anti white, anti colonial, feminist, anti capitalist, social activists.

The one speaker actually starts his speech by apologizing that he is a white male 😂

Or am I wrong and these people actually stage yellow? Would love to hear your thoughts. 

Edited 14 hours ago by enchanted

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

I think there is no problem with veganism, feminism or social activism (I do have problems with all the other ones tho lol), the problem is the collectivist thinking underpinning these ideologies. Thinking in and identifying yourself and others in terms of groups, it's always my group vs. your group. This group oppresses me (or if you are a masochist like that white guy in the video, I am part of the opressor group). That is not to say that this thinking in terms of groups is something avoidable, it clearly is not. However, I think it is possible to minimize it as much as possible

If you are ideological you are automatically collectivist

Edited 10 hours ago by NewKidOnTheBlock

[enchanted]

8 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

I think there is no problem with veganism, feminism or social activism (I do have problems with all the other ones tho lol), the problem is the collectivist thinking underpinning these ideologies. Thinking in and identifying yourself and others in terms of groups, it's always my group vs. your group. This group oppresses me (or if you are a masochist like that white guy in the video, I am part of the opressor group). That is not to say that this thinking in terms of groups is something avoidable, it clearly is not. However, I think it is possible to minimize it as much as possible

If you are ideological you are automatically collectivist

That's a great point. And I also agree 100% with the speakers in the video. It's just fun to watch stage green tie itslef into knots to try and be multicultural and not oppressive. They have clearly made a shadow of  "white colonialist" aka "the white devil". But if multiculturalism/post modernism is true then "white colonial" is just another valid perspective with lots of advantages and disadvantages.

I think the presents are way ahead of their time (compared to the average person) but I'm glad they are trying to awaken the species to higher values and greater consciousness. 

Edited 10 hours ago by enchanted

[Schizophonia]

3 hours ago, enchanted said:

The one speaker actually starts his speech by apologizing that he is a white male 😂

I'm far from being pro-vegan, but there are plenty of normal or even conservative vegans.

I like Vegan Gains on youtube.

Generally, a person is a people pleaser because it project its infantile narcissism onto others; a certain category of people, particularly on the far left indeed, are hysterical narcissists to whom you can't say anything and who project this onto "minorities".

Edited 10 hours ago by Schizophonia

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

18 minutes ago, enchanted said:

That's a great point. And I also agree 100% with the speakers in the video. It's just fun to watch stage green tie itslef into knots to try and be multicultural and not oppressive. They have clearly made a shadow of  "white colonialist" aka "the white devil". But if multiculturalism/post modernism is true then "white colonial" is just another valid perspective with lots of advantages and disadvantages.

I think the presents are way ahead of their time (compared to the average person) but I'm glad they are trying to awaken the species to higher values and greater consciousness. 

Agreeing 100% with them is a bit rich lol this whole putting of blame on white people is kinda cringe and I don't agree with that, granted I haven't watched the video but I don't think I need to in order to know how these people think

[carterfelder]

"The problem with white abolition of human slavery."