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Although they are a minority, they number over 2 million and make up over 20 percent of the population.

 

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Yes, and despite having more rights than occupied Palestinians, israel subjects them to discrimination 

Natural result of these attitudes:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/plurality-of-jewish-israelis-want-to-expel-arabs-study-shows/

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Nearly half of Jewish Israelis want to expel Arabs, survey shows

Pew study finds 79% believe Jews should get preferential treatment over Arab citizens;

 

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About 26% of the Palestinians are integrated in Israeli society in many high status professions in medicine (+10-20% above their % in the population which is quite impressive) and academia (-4%, almost normal), though underrepresented in law (-9%), academic lecturers, security (-20%), high-tech (-17%) and senior public positions (-17%). Still can reach senior positions but in smaller numbers.

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@Nivsch Of course they'd rather live there than anywhere else - that's their home. Beside that, the quality of life is much better than other countries in the Middle East which have been destabilized and war torn. That doesn't mean there isn't discrimination within Israel or that Israel isn't committing crimes against Palestinian elsewhere such as in the West Bank or Gaza. The logic of colonial powers used to be “Look how well the natives live under us compared to their neighbors.” 

Using Arab citizens as a moral shield is a common Zionist talking point. But coexistence in one sector doesn’t erase systemic domination in another, or the discrimination faced by those coexisting. I have family (in-laws) in Israel, mainly Nazareth which was shown at the start of OP's video - they are living well but obviously not perfectly. They wouldn't live anywhere else because that's their home. But they are also angry about the injustices taking place in West Bank and Gaza - they rarely talk about it out of fear of being picked up via surveillance or questioned.

Most Palestinians are just getting by and keep quiet because they don't want to ruffle any feathers and get into trouble. They know of whats going on but avoid talking or sharing too much via social media, whatsapp etc in case their stopped, interrogated etc. Again - in the  interviews you won't always get entirely honest answers when their face is on camera due to this same reasoning.

Beside the West Bank and Gaza, the two most blatant examples in how Palestinians are treated unequally are the land/zoning laws and the 2018 Nation-State Law. From AI:

''1. Land and housing laws

Around 93% of Israel’s land is owned or administered by the state or the Jewish National Fund (JNF).

The JNF’s charter specifies that this land is to be used “for the benefit of the Jewish people.”

As a result, Arab towns rarely receive permits to expand, even though their populations have grown dramatically.

Entire Arab villages (especially in the Negev) are “unrecognized” — meaning no water, electricity, or schools, and frequent demolitions.
➡️ Example: Al-Araqib, a Bedouin village in the Negev, has been demolished over 200 times since 2010.

2. The 2018 Nation-State Law

This Basic Law officially defines Israel as “the nation-state of the Jewish people.”

It states that only Jews have the right to national self-determination, downgrades Arabic from an official language, and promotes Jewish settlement as a national value.

In practice, it constitutionally cements second-class status for 20% of citizens who are Arab.''

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/19/israel-adopts-controversial-jewish-nation-state-law

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1 hour ago, zazen said:

2. The 2018 Nation-State Law

This Basic Law officially defines Israel as “the nation-state of the Jewish people.”

The Opposition was unanimously against this law, written by Netanyahu's Coalition.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Law:_Israel_as_the_Nation-State_of_the_Jewish_People

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If you are fine with Palestinians living as a minority in a Jewish state then why can't Jews just suck it up and live as a minority in a Palestinian state?

Oh wait, you would never accept that. Yet you expect them to accept it

Do you see? Do you see how foolish you are?

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