my questions about god and awakening

[Franz_]

so after one realized  the Truth or whatever  and have a bigger picture understanding about reality etc etc,why cant we manipulate it atleast just a little? like if anything possible because god is infinite,infitnite nothingness and its our dream why cant we do anything transcdental so to speak? a little childish question but im still interested,or jailbreaking reality and go to a realm between time and space or something like that.  my emphasise is on the cool,mysterious stuffs like this. you get the idea

[Leo Gura]

1) Maybe you can. Why assume not?

2) Reality is Absolute, so nothing about it can be better.

3) Realizing Truth by itself does not grant you special powers for the same reason realizing that your lost glasses are on your face does not grant you any extra powers. But, you could potentially train special powers on the side. That is a different pursuit than Truth-realization.

Edited yesterday at 10:46 PM by Leo Gura

[theoneandnone]

8 minutes ago, Franz_ said:

so after one realized  the Truth or whatever  and have a bigger picture understanding about reality etc etc,why cant we manipulate it atleast just a little? like if anything possible because god is infinite,infitnite nothingness and its our dream why cant we do anything transcdental so to speak? a little childish question but im still interested,or jailbreaking reality and go to a realm between time and space or something like that.  my emphasise is on the cool,mysterious stuffs like this. you get the idea

Haha I think that too be badass to fly or something heck maybe the more you convince yourself it’s a dream it might!

[Princess Arabia]

20 minutes ago, Franz_ said:

,why cant we manipulate it atleast just a little?

This cannot be manipulated because it's everything. The manipulative tactic is also it so it is trying to manipulate itself using itself is total delusion. It can, however, appear to be that way in the dream which isn't really happening. There is no we to manipulate this without separation and there is none but only in the dream.

Also, this is not an actual "it" so there's noone to stand outside of it to manipulate it. Cannot manipulate what is boundless and timeless has no center or point of reference and is totally free and spontaneously appearing as it is. This is also without meaning and purpose which is needed for manipulation to even be effective.

 

Edited 23 hours ago by Princess Arabia

[Franz_]

@Leo Gura what kind of special power are you talking about? 

[Davino]

By Realising God you'll see the Truth that Reality is already Perfect because it is Love itself and by virtue of being infinitely intelligent you couldn't manipulate it into being an inch better.

What you want is ego candy but how come could you reestructure all of Reality to serve you, that would be dysfunctional.

 

The biggest mindfuck is that once you fully realize and embody this Truth, you'll have the power to change Reality or yourself but probably you won't desire it, as loving existence as it is, may be found higher than loving existence for what it may become.

[Leo Gura]

10 hours ago, Franz_ said:

@Leo Gura what kind of special power are you talking about? 

Whatever New Age powers you read about.

[Franz_]

@Davino  how exactly you'll gain the power after the realization? do you have any example of someone doing it or something

[Davino]

@Franz_ It's only while in that state of consciousness. What I'm talking about is extremely radical.

What you're interested in is classic magick, occultism and siddhis. You may explore that, I've done it myself as well. It's like getting superpowers, it's fun but not comparable to entering God-Mode.

[Franz_]

@Davino if u dont mind me asking how did u started ur research about it and  what conclusion did u arrive to at the end? like what did u manage to do after the research etc you get what im trying to say

[Yimpa]

19 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

1) Maybe you can. Why assume not?

2) Reality is Absolute, so nothing about it can be better.

3) Realizing Truth by itself does not grant you special powers for the same reason realizing that your lost glasses are on your face does not grant you any extra powers. But, you could potentially train special powers on the side. That is a different pursuit than Truth-realization.

Three Truths and a Lie 

Oh wait, I am the Lie 

Edited 4 hours ago by Yimpa