Mórmon Church Shooting.

[Rafael Thundercat]

Church is a dangerous place to stay now a days, not just for your mind but even for your body. Of course I being ironic, there is no body

 

 

[Elliott]

$100, Conservatives come out with more war and retaliation rhetoric that feeds more of this.

Stupid

[Husseinisdoingfine]

This happened at a Mormon Church, and the guy who shot Charlie Kirk came from a Mormon family.

Suspicious.

[Elliott]

[Apparition of Jack]

7 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Without wanting to defend this man too much, I’ve also read that he had a special needs child whose care was taking a financial toll on the family.

I don’t want to say that was the only reason he snapped, but it absolutely contributed. This is why foreign countries look at the American healthcare system with disgust. Enough goes wrong with it and eventually your regular citizen snaps and shoots a bunch of people. Human health isn’t a commodity to be sold.

[Elliott]

27 minutes ago, Apparition of Jack said:

Without wanting to defend this man too much, I’ve also read that he had a special needs child whose care was taking a financial toll on the family.

I don’t want to say that was the only reason he snapped, but it absolutely contributed. This is why foreign countries look at the American healthcare system with disgust. Enough goes wrong with it and eventually your regular citizen snaps and shoots a bunch of people. Human health isn’t a commodity to be sold.

Interesting angle. Say U.S. took care of each other, say we allowed liberty and rights, say we stood for those things and our culture was liberal(including gun rights): would guns and violence still be the problem it is?

Edited 3 hours ago by Elliott

[Apparition of Jack]

1 hour ago, Elliott said:

Interesting angle. Say U.S. took care of each other, say we allowed liberty and rights, say we stood for those things and our culture was liberal(including gun rights): would guns and violence still be the problem it is?

In my personal opinion, I don’t think it would be.

Without getting too much into it, it always seemed absurd as an outsider how little Americans cared for each other. Don’t get me wrong, other countries have their problems too, but America seems unique in its ability to treat its own citizens as either obstacles to be overcome to enemies to be disposed of. 
 

Like, we have political divisions here in Australia, but there’s still this underlying sense that if you get sick, if you have an emergency, if you need rescue, etc we’ll look out for you. It doesn’t seem to be that way in the US. Everything feels so much more conditional. I can sorta understand why so many Americans distrust their government, because to them government feels like more of a tool of control / oppression than of genuine public uplift, which it can absolutely be.

[Elliott]

12 minutes ago, Apparition of Jack said:

In my personal opinion, I don’t think it would be.

Without getting too much into it, it always seemed absurd as an outsider how little Americans cared for each other. Don’t get me wrong, other countries have their problems too, but America seems unique in its ability to treat its own citizens as either obstacles to be overcome to enemies to be disposed of. 
 

Like, we have political divisions here in Australia, but there’s still this underlying sense that if you get sick, if you have an emergency, if you need rescue, etc we’ll look out for you. It doesn’t seem to be that way in the US. Everything feels so much more conditional. I can sorta understand why so many Americans distrust their government, because to them government feels like more of a tool of control / oppression than of genuine public uplift, which it can absolutely be.

It's a unique dynamic and history.

I seriously question if the U.S. should be broken up, it's possibly too big. A couple smaller nations could form tighter knit and I see no point except trade and global monopoly for staying as one, which in my opinion is actually a negative in the bigger scheme of things.