There is no pride in being poor

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, AION said:

Discipline is king.

Useless without ambition.

You're gonna be disciplined flipping burgers at McDonalds.

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Ambition is fleeting.

No. Ambition is a personality trait. It doesn't change.

Ambition is the #1 factor in all success. Nothing can replace it.

The one thing all mega-successful humans have is ambition baked into their bones. You can't even imagine this level of ambition.

Edited 7 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Eskilon]

@Leo Gura Would you say that Buddha was ambitious?

I mean this one is tricky right? Does it take ambition to just sit for crazy ammounts of time?

I don't know the answer tbh. I think it takes more crazy ammounts of  bravery and character than ambition.

[Thought Art]

@Eskilon He was extremely ambitious 

[Leo Gura]

To transcend all suffering requires insane ambition.

That's why no one does it.

[Thought Art]

@Eskilon He didn't just sit though. He explored around, observed people, tried different techniques and created a system of understanding suffering which considered both the individual and the collective. The four noble truths and the 8 fold path is really a system of healing and living well. It's really the foundation of a good philosophy of living... Not just transcending suffering. No one had done this before, as I understand and that is why it is such a profound teaching. Leo loves to shit on Buddhism but it's foundational to living a good life.

What I personally don't like about Buddhism is when people get stuck on it, become a Buddhist, start dressing like a monk which is so dumb... and take shallow understanding of the teaching without going more meta, and studying other systems too.  Being a buddhist is dumb. But, the heart of buddha's teachings are profound.

He essentially embarked on a philosophical spiritual and inner scientific endeavor like no one had ever done which required an extreme and rare ambition. To create your own spiritual path is rare that is grounded and as clean as it is... That is why he is still remembered, or believed to has existed today and the idea of his life and teachings touch millions of people. 

To not only become an "awakened one" within Buddhist idealogy, but to then teach and share that for over 40 years is ambition. 

I personally think it's wise to take the 8 fold path as a basic skeleton for all of self help.... but that is just me.

Edited 2 hours ago by Thought Art