about solipsism

[Franz_]

if solipsism is right,does that mean we keep reincarnating over and over again? like in a loop? first of all,the idea of existing forever by any means is terrifying for me. we all know the general beliefs of buddhism,and i'm not really a fond of reincarnation,because you need to do it over and over again. it must be pretty boring and tiring. but maybe that isn't the case,maybe i misunderstood. the optimal for me after death would be nothingness. i imagine life like a chance,you born with the background and everything you got purely by luck and you try to make something out of it. at the end of your life you'll see what have you managed to accomplish or do with your life. this is an oversimplified version about my concerns with this theory,but i tried. feel free to correct me

[theoneandnone]

3 hours ago, Franz_ said:

if solipsism is right,does that mean we keep reincarnating over and over again? like in a loop? first of all,the idea of existing forever by any means is terrifying for me. we all know the general beliefs of buddhism,and i'm not really a fond of reincarnation,because you need to do it over and over again. it must be pretty boring and tiring. but maybe that isn't the case,maybe i misunderstood. the optimal for me after death would be nothingness. i imagine life like a chance,you born with the background and everything you got purely by luck and you try to make something out of it. at the end of your life you'll see what have you managed to accomplish or do with your life. this is an oversimplified version about my concerns with this theory,but i tried. feel free to correct me

Yeah man we’re like god and shiz we gotta run from the loneliness so we gotta keep reincarnating. Btw nobody knows and also I will say I find it funny we as humans constantly call god lonely etc… that’s putting a human emotion on god 

[Someone here]

16 hours ago, Franz_ said:

first of all,the idea of existing forever by any means is terrifying for me

Only a depressed person would say such a thing. It's relative whether eternal existence is good or bad. If you live forever in heaven with 72 virgins then what's terrifying about that?  If you spend an eternity in a hell realm then that lmight be terrifying. 

But the the most important point is that eternity is not endless time ..its timelessness. Just like in deep sleep. 

16 hours ago, Franz_ said:

the optimal for me after death would be nothingness.

No . Think about it for a second..If you cease to exist forever and ever in the most literal sense possible that would be bad. All philosophers agree that existence is better than non-existence. I understand life can be a bitch sometimes..but the Very fact that we exist at all to experience this world is really mind-blowing. And in fact the logical conclusion that follows from our existence right now being a brute fact is that existence is eternal and immortal. It didn't originate /began nor will it ever vanish /disappear completely. 

 

[Franz_]

@Someone here  in what sense eternal? sure after you die existing is still gonna be there,the world doesnt stop in that sense,but how is it eternal? are you talking about reincarnation?

[theoneandnone]

3 minutes ago, Franz_ said:

@Someone here  in what sense eternal? sure after you die existing is still gonna be there,the world doesnt stop in that sense,but how is it eternal? are you talking about reincarnation?

I hope we don’t have to keep existing over and over but they do say energy can never be created or destroyed… 

[ivankiss]

On 29/09/2025 at 7:19 AM, Someone here said:

Only a depressed person would say such a thing.

Or a suicidal one.

On 29/09/2025 at 7:19 AM, Someone here said:

 If you spend an eternity in a hell realm then that lmight be terrifying. 

Beyond your wildest imagination.

On 29/09/2025 at 7:19 AM, Someone here said:

Think about it for a second..If you cease to exist forever and ever in the most literal sense possible that would be bad. 

Bad for someone who's dumb enough to play with eternal fire.

 

On 29/09/2025 at 7:19 AM, Someone here said:

And in fact the logical conclusion that follows from our existence right now being a brute fact is that existence is eternal and immortal. It didn't originate /began nor will it ever vanish /disappear completely. 

 

Only one way to find out. But don't pull the trigger just yet.

[Someone here]

42 minutes ago, Franz_ said:

@Someone here  in what sense eternal? sure after you die existing is still gonna be there,the world doesnt stop in that sense,but how is it eternal? are you talking about reincarnation?

Eternal means it did not have a beginning nor will it ever have an end . 

It's as simple as this : you exist right now and you are existence. And since existence exists right now therefore it has always existed because existence can't just jumo out of nowhere for no reason.  So in conclusion you as existence were never born and never die .

[ivankiss]

4 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Eternal means it did not have a beginning nor will it ever have an end . 

It's as simple as this : you exist right now and you are existence. And since existence exists right now therefore it has always existed because existence can't just jumo out of nowhere for no reason.  So in conclusion you as existence were never born and never die .

That's what SoonHei thought as well before jumping off of that bridge. God bless his confused soul. And may the deluded gurus who filled his mind with sickness burn in hell.

[Someone here]

17 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

That's what SoonHei thought as well before jumping off of that bridge. God bless his confused soul. And may the deluded gurus who filled his mind with sickness burn in hell.

Why are you reviving this again ? At least he had the balls to commit suicide . I don't know if you realized yet but you're gonna die sooner than you imagine.  few decades will fly by like a blink of an eye and you will turn into dust and rot  . I don't see anything wrong with suicide. In fact I realized something profound as I was contemplating my life situation..I discovered that you either awaken or you become religious or you kill yourself. No fourth option if you want to cut through the nonsense that's called life . 

[ivankiss]

1 minute ago, Someone here said:

Why are you reviving this again ? 

It never died. Just got swept under the rug

1 minute ago, Someone here said:

At least he had the balls to commit suicide 

Doesn't take balls. Takes a lot of fucking pain and confusion.

2 minutes ago, Someone here said:

I don't know if you realized yet but you're gonna die sooner than you imagine.  few decades will fly by like a blink of an eye and you will turn into dust and rot  . I don't see anything wrong with suicide. In fact I realized something profound as I was contemplating my life situation..I discovered that you either awaken or you become religious or you kill yourself. No fourth option if you want to cut through the nonsense that's called life . 

Again that Big Mac filled with horseshit talking through you.

[Someone here]

@ivankiss you are just trolling me at this point . Its really sad that youve become a pathetic troll .

[ivankiss]

2 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@ivankiss you are just trolling me at this point . Its really sad that youve become a pathetic troll .

Or I'm trying to help you purge, come to your senses and not commit suicide.

Up to you to decide.

[Someone here]

9 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

Or I'm trying to help you purge, come to your senses and not commit suicide.

Up to you to decide.

Ok thanks .I listed suicide as one solution. never said its the option I'm choosing .I'm studying the teachings of Robert Adams and also deeply studying the Islamic religion. Robert Adams is the most awake spiritual teacher I've ever stumbled upon .if you want I can send you his books. And Islam is the only religion that makes sense to me with all due respect to Christian religion and Eastern religions .so I'm working on both these aspects . 

Do you know that the Buddha basically commited suicide to awaken ? The story says he went to the woods without food or water and only two things could happen : either he awakens or he dies from hunger .

About me and you and Reena and Nahm and Soonhi ..I learned to never judge others . Who would've thought Leo was going to ban Nahm? Who would've thought a lighthearted nice married guy like soonhei would  kill himself out of the blue ? Things happen that we don't understand in this life .but it must be accepted . Because we don't know everything. We must be humble .

[ivankiss]

18 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Ok thanks .

Welcome.

19 minutes ago, Someone here said:

I listed suicide as one solution.

It's never a solution. More like an attempt to escape.

19 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Do you know that the Buddha basically commited suicide to awaken ? The story says he went to the woods without food or water and only two things could happen : either he awakens or he dies from hunger .

That's a story that you misunderstood. He ended up figuring out it's all bullshit and he doesn't need to suffer senselessly for nothing. He ended up choosing the middle way.

I know because I also starved myself do death and barely drank any water for years.

22 minutes ago, Someone here said:

About me and you and Reena and Nahm and Soonhi ..I learned to never judge others . 

Yet you judged me this very morning. And very poorly.

22 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Things happen that we don't understand in this life .but it must be accepted . Because we don't know everything. We must be humble .

Life always finds a way to humble us.

It's not about Reena, me, you, Leo or Phil...

It's just nature. 

How things work... If you will.

[theoneandnone]

1 hour ago, ivankiss said:

That's what SoonHei thought as well before jumping off of that bridge. God bless his confused soul. And may the deluded gurus who filled his mind with sickness burn in hell.

I’m not gonna lie I have thoughts like he does sometimes I am so eager to find out what’s after this experience (This is not a cry for help) But I do resonate with him so much. 

[theoneandnone]

Also you two need to quit being dicks to each other. 

[ivankiss]

@theoneandnone It's not worth it. Pain and confusion don't stop after suicide.

[Franz_]

@Someone here wait LEO BANNED NAHM??? when and why? i used to read his threads and watched a couple of  video from him on yt???

[Franz_]

@ivankiss you can't know that sure,we doesn't even know what's after death. but one thing for sure. humans always searching for  meaning,and we will get our answers when the time comes. or maybe not. you know not getting's answers is an answer too. sometimes everyone wonders that what it's all for you know

[ivankiss]

@Franz_ I can know that for sure. Because death is the disintegration of your thoughts, feelings and your "5 human senses." I've done it all. I know what it's like when your breath leaves your body and your heart stops beating. It's pure fucking terror.

But that's not the end, thankfully. There is no end. Suicide doesn't end anything. But it simply is not the way to go about this.