about solipsism

[Franz_]

@ivankiss so you had a near death experience? or what do you mean by done it all exactly? otherwise how would you know its the end or not

[ivankiss]

@Franz_ 

1 minute ago, Franz_ said:

@ivankiss so you had a near death experience? or what do you mean by done it all exactly? otherwise how would you know its the end or not

I had an actual full blown death experience. 

I know it's not the end... because I'm saying all this... from the other side... if you will.

[Frenk]

9 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

@Franz_ 

I had an actual full blown death experience. 

I know it's not the end... because I'm saying all this... from the other side... if you will.

What did you experience? Is there anything good for us on the other side?

[ivankiss]

@Frenk As said, complete disintegration. No thoughts, no feelings, no 5 human senses. Only pure consciousness remains.

There is absolute freedom on "the other side". And I used that freedom of choice to stay on this planet as a wannabe enlightened rockstar, if you will.

Died many times too, btw. But only the first time it was fucking real and raw. Nothing can compare to hearing your own heart stop beating.

[Franz_]

@ivankiss how did u managed to pull off such feat if you dont mind me asking

[theoneandnone]

4 hours ago, ivankiss said:

@theoneandnone It's not worth it. Pain and confusion don't stop after suicide.

How do you know lol

[theoneandnone]

3 hours ago, ivankiss said:

@Franz_ I can know that for sure. Because death is the disintegration of your thoughts, feelings and your "5 human senses." I've done it all. I know what it's like when your breath leaves your body and your heart stops beating. It's pure fucking terror.

But that's not the end, thankfully. There is no end. Suicide doesn't end anything. But it simply is not the way to go about this.

So basically your telling me death is not the end forever having to be conscious? Oh hell no

[ivankiss]

9 hours ago, Franz_ said:

@ivankiss how did u managed to pull off such feat if you dont mind me asking

The first time it was not exactly by choice. I overdosed on several drugs simultaneously. I have been dancing with death, to various degrees of consciousness, ever since.

6 hours ago, theoneandnone said:

How do you know lol

Cuz I died, dummy. Can you even read?

6 hours ago, theoneandnone said:

So basically your telling me death is not the end forever having to be conscious? Oh hell no

It's far more epic than you can imagine. But if you actually commit suicide, that's not where you go.

[ivankiss]

Using free will to take your own life is exactly the opposite of surrendering to death.

That is why hell is precisely the opposite of heaven.

[Franz_]

@ivankiss sounds like when christians say if you commit then you go to hell lol,where do you go then? do you ever go to there when you commit or is there any method?

[ivankiss]

9 minutes ago, Franz_ said:

@ivankiss sounds like when christians say if you commit then you go to hell lol,where do you go then? do you ever go to there when you commit or is there any method?

You simply don't have the freedom of choice to do anything at all and you do not attain full blown God consciousness. The cycle starts all over again, unconsciously, against your will. And who knows how that can look.

The idea is to surrender to death consciously. Not force death upon yourself using brute force.

Christianity is a tool. Like any other religion. There are valid and true pointers in all of them.

 

Edited October 5 by ivankiss

[Franz_]

@ivankiss is an accident count as surrending? like a truck hits your or anything. also while you experienced that to presentate that you can do anything in that state,did you do anything remarkable?

[ivankiss]

@Franz_ Depends on the level of your awareness when that truck hits you, so to speak. You take all the data back with you to source, if you know what I mean.

Hence, heaven or hell.

[ivankiss]

7 minutes ago, Franz_ said:

 do anything remarkable?

Willing yourself back into life, is pretty fucking remarkable.

Remembering and bringing back all the knowledge too.

[Franz_]

@ivankiss so your level or state of consciousness controls everything,your fate etc etc? that's crazy. if you surrender to death but you didnt awaken or didnt even meditate for a sec in your life you  couldn't even do what you want.. like imagine a caveman who died 

[ivankiss]

@Franz_ A caveman too could achieve enlightenment before death. In a sense, it would be even easier than today.

[caspex]

From what I can gather, once you truly die you become pure potential, which is what nothingness is. But pure potential cannot help but become something eventually. This is why I think reincarnation is the most likely. But we must also consider whether there exists other layers of this living being that might continue after physical death. Either way, whatever happens after death would not be permanent, like everything else.

I think you should rather be relieved to know your existence is eternal. What's terrifying is that you'd be eternal as well, which I don't see to be the case.

[waheed]

This forum should be called solipsism intensive. I mean every second post is about it. And i'm not sure if they are talking about the same thing.

[ivankiss]

Solipsism is only true inside your mind. It can also very much so become a mental disorder.

The mind cannot be infinite by definition. It is a limitation consciousness created. It can be expanded to great extent, but it can never actually be infinite. That is why it must be transcended.

Beyond the mind, beyond thoughts, feelings and the 5 human senses... is infinite consciousness.

Be careful. Don't hurt yourself or others.

 

Edited October 5 by ivankiss

[Franz_]

@caspex who knows? you might actually even create a new world. that would be cool,things with like elf etc fantasy world or something