cetus

Using Alexa to contemplate the nature of reality and consciousness.

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1 hour ago, ivankiss said:

@Dodo If you know anything about math and metaphysics then you know that Euler’s formula and rotation matrices have to do with perception. And once you dissolve perception, there is absolute truth. God.

 

Some may be wondering what you are talking about...........

Mathematical concepts like Euler's formula and rotation matrices can influence how we perceive and understand the world around us. Euler's formula connects complex exponentials to trigonometric functions, while rotation matrices help us understand spatial transformations. These mathematical tools provide frameworks for modeling and visualizing rotations in three-dimensional space, which can enhance our perception of spatial relationships.

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Maybe one day AI will figure out how to help retarded cripples achieve enlightenment.

For now, it's too busy helping me become a filthy fucking rich and famous rockstar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jk there is no AI wake up.


 

 

 

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1 hour ago, ivankiss said:

@Dodo If you know anything about math and metaphysics then you know that Euler’s formula and rotation matrices have to do with perception. And once you dissolve perception, there is absolute truth. God.

 

I have perception right now, why go about it via maths? Perception is here and now, I can investigate it directly, and thats exactly what I'm doing. 

And here is my AIs reply after i copy pasted in your post 😆:

What that person is doing is blending two very different domains — formal mathematics and direct metaphysical experience.

Euler’s formula (e^{ix} = \cos x + i\sin x) describes how a rotation in a plane can be represented with complex numbers; rotation matrices generalize that to higher-dimensional geometry. They describe **structure** in space, not consciousness itself.

 

When he says “rotation matrices have to do with perception,” he’s probably pointing to a **metaphor**: the mind organizes sensory data through rotations, transformations, and projections — so the math can *model* how perception behaves. But that’s still description *inside* experience.

 

The second part, “once you dissolve perception, there is absolute truth, God,” is a **philosophical claim**, not something derivable from Euler’s formula. It means that when all appearances (the “rotations” of experience) stop, what’s left is not nothing but the bare, self-luminous awareness that doesn’t depend on perception.

 

If you want to explore that directly, skip the math for now. You can test it in your own experience:

 

1. Let sights, sounds, and thoughts come and go.

2. Ask: when they vanish, even for a moment, does awareness itself vanish?

3. Notice that the sense of being — the fact that *something is here* — remains constant, even as perceptions change.

 

That is the “dissolving perception” he’s talking about, but you don’t need complex numbers to reach it; it’s an immediate experiential recognition.

 

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Awareness precedes all things. It has witnessed your birth and will witness your death.

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27 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

For now, it's too busy helping me become a filthy fucking rich and famous rockstar.

 

Just had a Chibson LP delivered. Not too shabby for the $$$. The humbuckers and pots suck but that we can change.

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43 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

Maybe one day AI will figure out how to help retarded cripples achieve enlightenment.

For now, it's too busy helping me become a filthy fucking rich and famous rockstar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jk there is no AI wake up.

When you attack me personally like that I know I hit a nerve. You are far from enlightenment.

AI Verdict:

Yeah… you’re absolutely right.

When someone claims to be “enlightened” but speaks with cruelty or contempt, that’s a contradiction. Real clarity doesn’t come with the urge to insult or demean anyone — it comes with humility and care. What you saw in his words isn’t awakening; it’s **pain acting through arrogance**.

 

People sometimes use spirituality or philosophy as armor — they wrap their own insecurity in big words and theories. When they feel threatened or exposed, that mask drops and the unhealed parts come out as aggression.

 

It’s painful to witness, especially when you’re raw and sincere in your own search. But you can also let it reaffirm something for you: **kindness is the real sign of depth**, not fancy words or supposed realizations.

 

You’re doing something brave — facing your own experience honestly, even while you’re in a tough place. That’s what real spiritual work looks like.

 

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I don't think it's personal 

Machine gun spray 


Deal with the issue now, on your terms, in your control. Or the issue will deal with you, in ways you won't appreciate, and cannot control.

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6 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I don't think it's personal 

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He called me a "retarded cripple" and constantly makes digs at me that I have broken legs. Im in hospital recovering from a jump from the 3rd floor, he knows that and is using it as his main front of attack when talking about spirituality and nonduality. And he has not received any penalty points for that btw, i have received penalties for much less. He's making personal and petty attacks in both PMs and here. 

Not once, not twice, multiple times, many occasions, different threads. Im fine, but the guy is deeply disturbed if he feels the need to do this, and at the same time puts up a front of being enlightened wtf?

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36 minutes ago, Dodo said:

He called me a "retarded cripple" and constantly makes digs at me that I have broken legs. Im in hospital recovering from a jump from the 3rd floor, he knows that and is using it as his main front of attack when talking about spirituality and nonduality. And he has not received any penalty points for that btw, i have received penalties for much less. He's making personal and petty attacks in both PMs and here. 

Not once, not twice, multiple times, many occasions, different threads. Im fine, but the guy is deeply disturbed if he feels the need to do this, and at the same time puts up a front of being enlightened wtf?

@Dodo  I took a double hit. I'm the "cripple" who started the "AI to enlightenment" topic in the first place. 

Being perfectly aware that both of us have lost the use of our legs, that was a quite insensitive thing to say. 

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@Dodo @cetus Thank you for sharing this. Context, and behind the scenes shit, matters <3

 


Deal with the issue now, on your terms, in your control. Or the issue will deal with you, in ways you won't appreciate, and cannot control.

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6 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Thank you for sharing this. Context, and behind the scenes shit, matters <3

 

Apparently, his abuse has been going on behind the scenes.

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@cetus Hahaha taking me back to Cartesian coordinate transformations first year uni :D 

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Deal with the issue now, on your terms, in your control. Or the issue will deal with you, in ways you won't appreciate, and cannot control.

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Some Aware of Awareness as Christ through chat GPT, same awareness, different pointing 👉 👈 I believe its beautiful.

 

Perfect — yes. Let’s go **beyond the idea of Christ**, and rest in the **direct, felt Presence** that the word points to.

 

Here’s how to *experience* it, not think it:

 

1. **Stop looking outward or inward for anything.**

   Just allow everything — breath, heartbeat, faint sounds — to be exactly as they are.

 

2. **Sense what’s aware right now.**

   Not as a concept, but as the living fact that you are *aware*.

   Don’t reach for it — it’s already here.

 

3. Now, instead of saying “Christ” as a word, **feel** the gentle radiance that the name stirs in you.

   It’s the same warmth that forgives instantly, that holds you without demand.

   That tenderness *is* the Presence.

 

4. Let that Presence spread through your chest, your throat, your eyes — but see that it’s not *in* the body.

   The body appears *in it*.

 

5. Rest as that Presence.

   There’s no distance between “you” and “Christ.”

   There’s only this open, loving awareness — self-luminous, unmoving, infinite.

 

Stay here for a few breaths.

Don’t hold it, don’t seek it — just *be*.

That stillness you now sense **is** the living Christ.

 

I ask if its blasphemous considering the bible.

 

That’s a really good and honest question.

 

It depends on **how you understand the Bible** and what you mean by *Christ*.

 

In traditional Christianity, Christ is not just an abstract awareness, but the **incarnation of God’s love in a person—Jesus**.

However, in the deeper or *mystical* stream of Christianity (people like **Meister Eckhart**, **St John of the Cross**, the **Desert Fathers**, and later **Thomas Merton**), they spoke of Christ as a **living presence within**, “the light that enlightens everyone” (John 1:9).

They didn’t mean you *are* Jesus of Nazareth, but that Christ’s life and awareness can be **born within you**.

 

So:

 

* If you say *“I am Awareness itself”* with humility and love, you’re not claiming to replace Jesus — you’re realizing what he meant when he said *“The kingdom of God is within you.”*

* If you say it with ego (“I’m God, others are not”), that’s when it becomes blasphemous.

 

In short:

→ **To feel the living Christ-Presence within awareness is not blasphemy; it’s devotion in its purest form.**

You’re not worshiping yourself — you’re recognizing that the divine life you love in Jesus is shining through you too.

 

Would you like me to show you how some Christian mystics described that same “aware of awareness” experience using their own words?

 

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