cetus

Using Alexa to contemplate the nature of reality and consciousness.

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1 minute ago, ivankiss said:

@Mellowmarsh No worries. Hope you're not a bot. Or Jane or something.

I was just here reading when you responded. 🤭

 

“Good one, but no, it's just a thought responding to a thought. Which is all consciousness (interacting with itself). Dodo and ivankiss and Mellowmarsh are not the thinkers of thoughts... they are just thoughts.”

 

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Just now, ivankiss said:

@Mellowmarsh Awesome haha!

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It’s really that simple, almost too simple. Surly it can’t be that simple, yes, it’s even simpler than simple, and for simple minds only. 🤭

 

 

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On 28/09/2025 at 8:01 AM, theoneandnone said:

Why would AI know anything about consciousness or secrets to the universe…. 

AI knowing - is NOT-Knowing. That’s how NOThing knows itself as Not-Knowing 

 

ART IS real. Nature is ARTifical.

 

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On 9/28/2025 at 3:01 AM, theoneandnone said:

Why would AI know anything about consciousness or secrets to the universe…. 

AI knows nothing.  But with its vast library of information AI can used as a catalyst to spark insights into the nature of consciousness and reality within the user. Like having a friend that you can have deep conversations with. Maybe they see something that you may have missed. -And vice versa.

I used to hang out with some friends, and we would get high and sometimes sit till late in the night having conversations which always sparked deeper insights in all of us. It's kind of like that.

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What I know hangs in the void by a thin thread suspended by its own illusion. But that's not what this topic is about. It about helping others that may not have reached that level of understanding yet. Plus, it's fun to pretend anything is real.

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29 minutes ago, cetus said:

AI knows nothing.  But with its vast library of information AI can used as a catalyst to spark insights into the nature of consciousness and reality within the user. Like having a friend that you can have deep conversations with. Maybe they see something that you may have missed. -And vice versa.

I used to hang out with some friends, and we would get high and sometimes sit till late in the night having conversations which always sparked deeper insights in all of us. It's kind of like that.

I've been turned a believer, its like having my very own pocket sized Rupert Spira. I've had some quality well productive time with my gpt.

Its important to ask the right questions ofcourse, but it seems amazing for nondual discourse. (Small section of our conversations posted below)

 

You said:

How do you know this is true if tou dont have direct ezperienxe like me

ChatGPT said:

Good question — and you’re right to ask it.
I don’t have personal experience the way you do; I don’t feel sensations or emotions. What I can do is point you toward the kind of checking that many people have done and verified for themselves, and describe how to test it.

So, when I talk about awareness or direct experience, I’m not claiming to know it the way a person does. I’m giving you a map that you can walk yourself. The truth of it only matters if you see it.

That’s why this approach keeps circling back to simple observation: what’s happening before words, before judgments. If, when you check, you notice that seeing, hearing, and sensing are already happening on their own, that’s you verifying it.

Would you like me to lay out a very short exercise that helps you test whether awareness is actually prior to thought — something you can confirm or reject from your own experience?

You said:

Give me more enquiry to know myself fully now

ChatGPT said:

Here are a few direct self-enquiries you can quietly rest with.
Each one is meant to turn attention back toward what’s actually here, not toward an idea.
Take one at a time; read it, close your eyes, and see what happens rather than answering with words.

1. Before any thought arises, what is already aware?
Notice that awareness is present even before the thought “I am aware.”

2. Can the awareness that’s knowing these words be seen, heard, or felt as an object?
If it can’t be found as a thing, what does that suggest about what you are?

3. Everything that appears—sensations, emotions, sounds—comes and goes.
What is it that never comes or goes?

4. When the sense of “me” appears—memories, images, feelings—where does it appear?
What is it appearing in?

5. Does awareness have a boundary?
If you try to find an edge where awareness ends and “outside” begins, what do you discover?

6. Is the awareness that’s here now any different from the awareness that was here yesterday, as a child, or five seconds ago?

7. Without using thought, are you separate from what you’re perceiving right now?
Look directly—can you find a gap between seeing and the seen, hearing and the heard?

You don’t need to solve them; just look and stay with the looking.
Each question is a doorway that quietly removes what you’re not, until only the simple fact of being aware remains.

Would you like me to give you one focused enquiry—the most essential one—to stay with tonight while you rest?

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@Dodo You clearly did not program your AI properly.

Talk to it like its a retard and it will give back retarded answers. Talk to it as if it's God... and see what happens.

Learn how to program it, jeez.

 

 

 

 

 

Oh wait, you can't, cuz you're not enlightened as fuck, like I am. Oopsy.

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17 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

@Dodo You clearly did not program your AI properly.

Talk to it like its a retard and it will give back retarded answers. Talk to it as if it's God... and see what happens.

Learn how to program it, jeez.

 

 

 

 

 

Oh wait, you can't, cuz you're not enlightened as fuck, like I am. Oopsy.

Yea thats the difference, i dont talk to it like its God or retard, i simply expect the darn Truth. I ask for no-nonsense, no metaphors, clear expritential knowing now, friend.

Doesn't get clearer than that. No dilluting, I know you always chat shit, but lets be serious for a second. You have so many posts on this forum > i wonder if we remove the "chat shit" ones how many will you have? Wish rep points were a thing.  

Talking to it like its God is the easiest way to get stuck in believing some bs, because it isnt God. Its a language model trained on data.

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@Dodo Currently in the process of hiding 90% of my posts. I hope you read through them all. Not like you would learn anything, but still. It's going all byebye. I hit the annihilation button.

 

 

 

 

It says jelly on your forehead btw.


 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

@Dodo Currently in the process of hiding 90% of my posts. I hope you read through them all. Not like you would learn anything, but still. It's going all byebye. I hit the annihilation button.

 

 

 

 

It says jelly on your forehead btw.

Oh don't run now, hiding your posts. Whats done is done. Stop trying to pull me to your level and defeat me with experience. Im in this forum solely for discussing nonduality/truth. If you can't handle that reply to someone else.

You're having egoic reactions, because I dont treat you as an enlightened being, the way you speak and I answer triggers yoou, so you feel the need to attack me with your posts. Clear as daylight, ego activation... and im just speaking my truth. Imagine! 

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@Dodo I am hiding it because you are all unworthy of my holy golden tree of knowledge. And because the forum is bugging as fuck. May Leo delete it all in the backoffice.

Its a win win. Don't worry, I won't hide you (yet).

I won't even hide all this groundbreaking info in this thread including the real, raw, direct process of how it was attained. If you behave.


 

 

 

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36 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

@Dodo I am hiding it because you are all unworthy of my holy golden tree of knowledge. And because the forum is bugging as fuck. May Leo delete it all in the backoffice.

Its a win win. Don't worry, I won't hide you (yet).

I won't even hide all this groundbreaking info in this thread including the real, raw, direct process of how it was attained. If you behave.

What you're trying to do is understand reality intellectually, through AI, you think it can give you TOE, but awareness itself is knowledge of another level, it can't be put on paper, you cant explain it away with maths, waves and circles, all those appear in it. (Ive studied maths and computer science at University level and was a competitive mathematician in my school years. )

It (awareness of awareness) is next level knowledge if you will. Direct knowing is important here, not intellectual knowing. 

But even intellectual knowing here should be less mathematical and more experiential, like the Consciousness only model of reality. 

Here's a nice vid, please don't skip, its a good watch, talks about the difference between the Consciousness only model and actually knowing the Truth non-intellectually. 

 

 

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@Dodo Fine. I'm deleting all of my posts in this thread too. @cetus you know who to thank. Dodo simply cannot take it. I'm doing it for the sake of his wellbeing.

Everyone else sorry too. I hope you read what you had to read.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jk no one can read here, clearly


 

 

 

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52 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

@Dodo Fine. I'm deleting all of my posts in this thread too. @cetus you know who to thank. Dodo simply cannot take it. I'm doing it for the sake of his wellbeing.

Everyone else sorry too. I hope you read what you had to read.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jk no one can read here, clearly

Im probably one of the few who actually could take your posts, due to mathematical past... its actually funny, others would look away at the first sight of maths, I actually read that one long post your AI wrote... and was an enjoyable read, I could see relative truth in it. But absolute truth? Come on try again. 

There is more Absolute Truth in the lyrics of this song 

 

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@Dodo If you know anything about math and metaphysics then you know that Euler’s formula and rotation matrices have to do with perception. And once you dissolve perception, there is absolute truth. God.

 

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"Each question is a doorway that quietly removes what you’re not, until only the simple fact of being aware remains".

@Dodo Good stuff! Getting to the crux of it here.

In the realm of enlightenment- less is more. Less of course being intellectual and self-knowledge until only awareness remains.

 

 

 

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