Hibahere

Why Islam is a huge hindrance to awakening

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It’s one of the most liberating feelings to finally stop defending a religion I once tried so hard to justify. I saw the cracks a long time ago, but only recently did I fully let it go—and the freedom that comes with that is beyond words. When I now see women defending Islam, it feels like watching chickens defend KFC. It’s disturbing, because the very structure of this religion was built by men, for men, to keep women under their control.

 

The common excuse people make is that misogyny in Muslim societies isn’t “real Islam,” but the Qur’an itself contains verses that lay the foundation for patriarchy. For example:

 

Qur’an 4:34 – Men are described as “maintainers of women” and are given authority over them. It explicitly says that if a wife disobeys, the husband is allowed to “admonish them, forsake them in bed, and strike them.” That’s not misinterpretation—that’s the text.

 

Qur’an 2:282 – In matters of testimony, the word of two women equals that of one man, implying that women are half as trustworthy in legal matters.

 

Qur’an 2:223 – Wives are called “tilth” for their husbands, reducing women to property and objects for a man’s use.

 

 

These are not fringe ideas or distortions. They’re embedded in the scripture itself. To claim otherwise is to deliberately look away. The hard truth is this: Islam, at its very root, elevates men and systematically diminishes women.

 

What made this realization even more profound was finding a partner who isn’t religious—an atheist who sees the world with clarity instead of dogma. For the first time, I felt deeply understood, without the weight of fear or guilt hanging over me. Islam had me so caged that even the thought of questioning it triggered images of hellfire. Every step toward freedom was clouded by the threat of eternal punishment, making genuine liberation feel impossible. Being with someone who doesn’t live under that shadow showed me how freeing it is to think, to love, and to exist without fear.

 

Letting go of Islam was not just walking away from a religion—it was walking into truth. The moment I stripped away the misogyny, the control, the poison disguised as “faith,” I finally saw God not as a tyrant threatening me with hellfire, but as pure essence: truth, love, freedom, existence itself. Islam had reduced the divine to a set of rules made by men, for men, suffocating women and caging the soul. Leaving it behind was like shedding cancer from my spirit. I no longer bow to fear, I no longer defend oppression, and I no longer mistake chains for devotion. What I have now is infinitely greater—an unshakable connection to reality, to freedom, to the God that simply is.

I'm here posting this because I'd love to hear about the journeys of people who have been through the same stuff regarding Islam 

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Yes it literally says in the quran that men can physically beat their wives if they disobeyed them.which means this text should be read in it's cultural and historical context.  After reading the entire quran myself and listening to it being recited in Arabic I say half the quran was indeed God talking to Muhammad (meaning his higher self talking to him) and the other half is his own fabrication and pure egotism.  So yeah either cherry pick the good verses and ignore the corrupt verses or just throw the entire quran away and become Allah.


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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@Hibahere What are your thoughts on sharia law? Some say it has nothing to do with the Qur'an others say it comes with it.

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@MightyMind sharia law is a part af the whole religion. Its incomplete without sharia. Its not necessary to focus on parts of the religion though because I have ascended religion as a whole...I can't see eye to eye with that. Even if you removed all misogynistic and toxic bs from Islam what ever is left would still seem very immature to me. Its like a college student reading a book from kindergarten.

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@Hibahere with what you now know, do you think the west should be concerned of a growing muslim population and what may come with that reality? 

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13 hours ago, Someone here said:

Yes it literally says in the quran that men can physically beat their wives if they disobeyed them.which means this text should be read in it's cultural and historical context.  After reading the entire quran myself and listening to it being recited in Arabic I say half the quran was indeed God talking to Muhammad (meaning his higher self talking to him) and the other half is his own fabrication and pure egotism.  So yeah either cherry pick the good verses and ignore the corrupt verses or just throw the entire quran away and become Allah.

@Someone here I like your take on it! While I do see divine dialogue and insight I also thought that while I listened to a reading of the quran, that parts of it seemed like it came from a similar mind that wrote the old testament...which reflects a tyrant who demands mindless obedience and if you don't obey, punishment in all the cruel ways possible. 

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@oldhandle I'm getting the impression that Islam is not one thing. Nor is there just one Quran. So this is something to consider.

Thousands of years ago mystic philosophers (Europe) fled persecution and some made their way to the middle east. It appears these people and their writings heavily influenced middle eastern spirituality where you see a blending of western intellectualism and middle eastern spirituality. 

This guys take is worth while to investigate. He has a few videos (dialogue/debates) on youtube https://www.khalilandani.com/ 

There's also Sufism. I'm quite sure Rumi could be classified as a Muslim Sufi

If I'm wrong on any of this, feel free to correct me! 

https://sufism.org/sufism 

"Who gets up early
to discover the moment light begins?
Who finds us here circling, bewildered, like atoms?
Who comes to a spring thirsty
and sees the moon reflected in it?
Who, like Jacob blind with grief and age,
smells the shirt of his lost son
and can see again?
Who lets a bucket down and brings up
a flowing prophet?
Or like Moses goes for fire
and finds what burns inside the sunrise?

Jesus slips into a house to escape enemies,
and opens a door to the other world.
Soloman cuts open a fish, and there’s a gold ring.
Omar storms in to kill the prophet
and leaves with blessings.
Chase a deer and end up everywhere!
An oyster opens his mouth to swallow on drop.
Now there’s a pearl.
A vagrant wanders empty ruins.
Suddenly he’s wealthy.

But don’t be satisfied with stories, how things
have gone with others. Unfold
your own myth, without complicated explanation,
so everyone will understand the passage,
We have opened you.

Start walking toward Shams. Your legs will get heavy
and tired. Then comes a moment
of feeling the wings you’ve grown,
lifting."

Rumi

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