What is Happiness?

[Princess Arabia]

8 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

that relinquishing effort could be exactly the thing that increases their well being and reduces their suffering,

This is not what I'm suggesting. This is still on the hunt for happiness. I'm suggesting there's no happiness to be found by any approach. It's either it is or it isn't. Someone could knock on your door right now and bring you a nice surprise that makes you feel happy. Did you go looking for that. Did you reduce any suffering there, say you were suffering right before that. No. It happened all on it's own. Even the person didn't cause that we just think it was the circumstance, but it's not. When happiness emerges, you are not there, it's just happiness present. It's all encompassing.

[Jehovah increases]

 emotions are the result of complex neurochemical reactions within the brain, involving the communication of neurotransmitters and hormones between brain cells and other bodily systems. These chemical signals trigger neurophysiological changes associated with our thoughts and physical responses, influencing our mood, behavior, and overall experience, which includes happiness. You create your own happiness, whatever that may be.

[Princess Arabia]

6 minutes ago, Jehovah increases said:

 emotions are the result of complex neurochemical reactions within the brain, involving the communication of neurotransmitters and hormones between brain cells and other bodily systems. These chemical signals trigger neurophysiological changes associated with our thoughts and physical responses, influencing our mood, behavior, and overall experience, which includes happiness. You create your own happiness, whatever that may be.

That's all happening all on it's own. There's no "you create your own happiness". No you is needed for biological processes of the body. When the body seems to "die" are you creating the rotting process and creating whatever process the body goes through in the grave. No. Same here. The you is imaging itself. The body isn't.

 

Edited yesterday at 04:29 PM by Princess Arabia

[Jehovah increases]

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

That's all happening all on it's own. There's no "you create your own happiness". No you is needed for biological processes of the body. When the body seems to "die" are you creating the rotting process and creating whatever process the body goes through in the grave. No. Same here. The you is imaging itself. The body isn't.

 

Who told you there is no you, and it's happening all on its own?

[Princess Arabia]

15 minutes ago, Jehovah increases said:

Who told you there is no you, and it's happening all on its own?

 Are you there in sleep when the body goes through it's sleep process. Do you make the body pee, the heart beat, the kidneys function, the eyelids blink, the fingernails grow. You can't be there sometimes and not all the time for real. The you is not there; it's only sensed to be but only at times not at all times. It's not sensed many times during the day, you just haven't noticed because there's no one to notice. That's what psychedelics do, it does what's already the case. There is no you that has done a damn thing your whole entire life. It's just a sense that arises within the body that makes it seems like there's a you there. It isn't. It's an illusion. 

Edited yesterday at 04:49 PM by Princess Arabia

[Sugarcoat]

@Princess Arabia I love how you often have so much to say, it’s like you are in a flow state when you write 🩷A full mind for a “nobody “ (nobody as in no self, not “loser” lol just gotta clarify)

[Jehovah increases]

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

 Are you there in sleep when the body goes through it's sleep process. Do you make the body pee, the heart beat, the kidneys function, the eyelids blink, the fingernails grow. You can't be there sometimes and not all the time for real. The you is not there; it's only sensed to be but only at times not at all times. It's not there many times during the day, you just haven't noticed because there's no one to notice. That's what psychedelics do, it does what's already the case. There is no you that has done a damn thing your whole entire life. It's just a sense that arises within the body that makes it seems like there's a you there. It isn't. It's an illusion. 

That's not what psychedelics do, and there is a you. And this sense that arises within the so-called body, where  does that arise from?

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Sugarcoat said:

@Princess Arabia I love how you often have so much to say, it’s like you are in a flow state when you write 🩷A full mind for a “nobody “ (nobody as in no self, not “loser” lol just gotta clarify)

I knew what you meant. There's no one there either. These are just words talking/writing themselves. This illusion sucks. There's no escaping it because it's not really happening in the first place. 

[Princess Arabia]

10 minutes ago, Jehovah increases said:

That's not what psychedelics do, and there is a you. And this sense that arises within the so-called body, where  does that arise from?

Where does the sense of taste smell, touch, hearing etc arise from....nowhere/nothing, just like everything else including this conversation. Existence is nothing. Psychedelics, from what I understand from reading enough trip reports and translations, does allow for the sense of self to fall away temporarily. 

Edited yesterday at 05:03 PM by Princess Arabia

[Jehovah increases]

Where is nowhere? No existence is everything. No, the self is always there.

Edited yesterday at 05:06 PM by Jehovah increases

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, Jehovah increases said:

Where is nowhere? No existence is everything. No self is always there .

You're correct. Existence is everything but also nothing. Nowhere doesn't have a location. It's timeless. Nothing as in not a thing, no qualities, no boundaries, no location, no center, no anything, this is how it becomes everything. But they everything is appearance only and only visible to an observer. Go to sleep and see if there's anything there. Nope. That's existence. That's the nothing i speak of. The sense arises out of that and now you're borne. Go back to sleep, nothing, zilch, nada.

[Jehovah increases]

Nowhere is its own location its it is own observer. You were never born to begin with. It's not nothing people always get this wrong.

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Jehovah increases said:

Nowhere is its own location its it is own observer. You were never born to begin with. It's not nothing people always get this wrong.

When I say you were borne I meant the you that's sensed. Not literally. Just as how a rainbow appears from lights and reflections and however else that makes it seem like it's really there. Can't grab a rainbow because it's not really there only seems to be. Same thing. The sense of self only seems to be there but it isn't. It's contracted energy, just as the rainbow is reflected light. 

It is nothing. If it were something it couldn't be anything and everything. 

[Jehovah increases]

It's not contracted energy, what do you think nothing is? if it were something, it could be everything, which it is.

Edited 23 hours ago by Jehovah increases

[Princess Arabia]

11 minutes ago, Jehovah increases said:

It's not contracted energy, what do you think nothing is? if something, it could be everything, which it is.

Energy is nothing. Same thing. All is energy. Energy can appear as anything including contracted. When a feeling of a you is sensed in the body, it's energy that seems to be contracted, tense, tension is felt in the body to feel itself as a person but it's not really happening.. This is why the sense, which is the seeking energy, seeks for relief, relief in objects, whatever that is. Happiness, spirituality, materialism, even truth, all of it is being saught as a way to relieve this tension. Even monks seek relief by isolating themselves. It's seeking in disguise. 

Edited 23 hours ago by Princess Arabia

[Jehovah increases]

I know what you mean, but energy is a human construct.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

3 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

There is no witness in wholeness. 

 

What is wholeness? 

[Princess Arabia]

6 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

What is wholeness? 

All There Is/The Absolute

[Princess Arabia]

33 minutes ago, Jehovah increases said:

I know what you mean, but energy is a human construct.

Human construct is energy.

[Jehovah increases]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

Human construct is energy.

I am not human