How it feels being on this forum

[Princess Arabia]

@Bufo AlvariusI see what you're getting at but for me, it's simply a discussion for these types of talks. If you observe in the other sections e,g the dating section, I don't reply to someone's concern about a dating issue by saying, don't worry nothing is happening, there's no you and experience is illusion. I address the issue as it appears. 

I usually only reserve these talks for my journal, the spirituality section or if it comes up for discussion. I'm not in denial of anything and I find there's a lot of misunderstanding of non duality and the Absolute. Many misunderstandings there. One is people think because I might say something, I'm denying it's opposite. Or that, when I say something is meaningless it means i'm nihilistic and go about my life without meaning or purpose and I look at life a certain way or the trees are meaningless etcetc. This is meaningless and that's why we are able to give it meaning. If it already came with it's own meaning you or I wouldn't be able to place our own. That's how come it's meaningless. I speak on these things when I have somewhat a thorough understanding of what I'm saying not just repeating words I've heard. They make sense in an Absolute way but not to a person who doesn't really see or understand where those words are coming. Plenty factors are at play here. Understanding, observation, experience, a knowing, feeling, intuition, a felt sense, an unfelt sense, and more. It's not complete and cannot be where it's timeless and boundless.

[Carl-Richard]

The picture is inaccurate because you actually laid down your sword and walked away.

If (absolute) truth can be threatened, is it really (absolutely) true? 🫢 🫢

Edited 23 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[Carl-Richard]

18 hours ago, Meeksauce said:

When someone is talking about how you don't exist, you don't even have any experience, there's nothing to do and nowhere to get, it doesn't take a Ph.d to realize they're just blindly believing nondual teachers on YouTube.

 

21 hours ago, Meeksauce said:

I don't understand why people are actually on here and following Leo if they're just gonna ignore what he says

 

🤔 🤔

Edited 23 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[Bufo Alvarius]

13 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

@Bufo AlvariusI see what you're getting at but for me, it's simply a discussion for these types of talks. If you observe in the other sections e,g the dating section, I don't reply to someone's concern about a dating issue by saying, don't worry nothing is happening, there's no you and experience is illusion. I address the issue as it appears. 

I usually only reserve these talks for my journal, the spirituality section or if it comes up for discussion. I'm not in denial of anything and I find there's a lot of misunderstanding of non duality and the Absolute. Many misunderstandings there. One is people think because I might say something, I'm denying it's opposite. Or that, when I say something is meaningless it means i'm nihilistic and go about my life without meaning or purpose and I look at life a certain way or the trees are meaningless etcetc. This is meaningless and that's why we are able to give it meaning. If it already came with it's own meaning you or I wouldn't be able to place our own. That's how come it's meaningless. I speak on these things when I have somewhat a thorough understanding of what I'm saying not just repeating words I've heard. They make sense in an Absolute way but not to a person who doesn't really see or understand where those words are coming. Plenty factors are at play here. Understanding, observation, experience, a knowing, feeling, intuition, a felt sense, an unfelt sense, and more. It's not complete and cannot be where it's timeless and boundless.

Appreciate the clarification and great to hear you’re not applying nonduality as a blunt tool across all situations.

At the same time, I wonder if sometimes the language of “nothing is happening” or “it’s all meaningless” can, when held too tightly or shared out of context, have the unintended effect of flattening or bypassing the richness of what’s arising, or come across as more nihilistic to the reader.

Maybe that’s just me, but I find that when (in these spirituality threads) only the negation side of things is emphasized, without also speaking to the fullness and aliveness of Being, lived and embodied as the dream, it can lead to a worldview that feels bleak or depressing. This can especially affect people who are just beginning to deconstruct ideas and narratives of self and world. If all they hear is the “nothing side,” without balancing the dimension of fullness, presence and integration, it may leave them feeling lost or disoriented rather than free.

Anyway, just my two cents, thanks for the dance 💃

[Ishanga]

4 hours ago, Bufo Alvarius said:

Appreciate the clarification and great to hear you’re not applying nonduality as a blunt tool across all situations.

At the same time, I wonder if sometimes the language of “nothing is happening” or “it’s all meaningless” can, when held too tightly or shared out of context, have the unintended effect of flattening or bypassing the richness of what’s arising, or come across as more nihilistic to the reader.

Maybe that’s just me, but I find that when (in these spirituality threads) only the negation side of things is emphasized, without also speaking to the fullness and aliveness of Being, lived and embodied as the dream, it can lead to a worldview that feels bleak or depressing. This can especially affect people who are just beginning to deconstruct ideas and narratives of self and world. If all they hear is the “nothing side,” without balancing the dimension of fullness, presence and integration, it may leave them feeling lost or disoriented rather than free.

Anyway, just my two cents, thanks for the dance 💃

I agree, its a balance btwn Absolute and Relative, and this is the whole reason why we are here I think, to work this out, Experience things, go thru all there is too go thru Experientially and then somehow return back to the Absolute Perspective, that is the game, but if Your too one sided (I think most in the world are too Relative) then it causes un balance and that results in not knowing or experiencing all that is there...

Un Realized Potential is a huge Tragedy imo!