Jesus Crucifixion

[James123]

Jesus did not truly die on the cross. His real death came earlier — when he surrendered completely to God. In that surrender, the “Jesus” as a separate self dissolved. What remained was pure witnessing, not as Jesus the man, but as God’s presence moving through the body.

So when scripture says that God took Jesus to His side, it is not describing a later event. The body perished on the cross, but Jesus had already died before — in surrender. From that moment on, it was no longer Jesus who lived, but God speaking and acting through the body.

That’s all the story and meaning where it comes from.

Best Regards,

With Love,

[Mellowmarsh]

2 hours ago, James123 said:

Jesus did not truly die on the cross. His real death came earlier — when he surrendered completely to God. In that surrender, the “Jesus” as a separate self dissolved. What remained was pure witnessing, not as Jesus the man, but as God’s presence moving through the body.

So when scripture says that God took Jesus to His side, it is not describing a later event. The body perished on the cross, but Jesus had already died before — in surrender. From that moment on, it was no longer Jesus who lived, but God speaking and acting through the body.

That’s all the story and meaning where it comes from.

Best Regards,

With Love,

Amazing Grace. ❤️

Divine presence/presents 

[Princess Arabia]

Your posts are very awakening. They awaken me to nobody being there. Can't be, writing this nonsense.

Just messing with you James. You know I love to mess with you. Our energies love to clash and vibe. 😅

[Sugarcoat]

I feel this is the accurate interpretation of Christianity 

[James123]

15 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Your posts are very awakening. They awaken me to nobody being there. Can't be, writing this nonsense.

Just messing with you James. You know I love to mess with you. Our energies love to clash and vibe. 😅

İt might be helpful for people. Even if there is no one left in body, yet body shares love and help inevitably. Shines love.

Love you too ❤️ 

8 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

I feel this is the accurate interpretation of Christianity 

Just trying to help ❤️ 

[Salariatu]

There have been countless sons of god during history, is a human idea only. 

Jesus was a nobody, was only a jew saint. The Romans made a big deal about it putting in place the elaborate story behind it, similar how Isis put an elaborate story about Osiris and his son Horus and similar as other sun worship deities did in other culters of the world. 

Nothing new, only a low consciousness idea that a son of god was somebody, they where only divinized dead people. In the same way per exemple Osho or Krisna Murti or others in spiritual circles are viewed or Gautama. The last ones, knew more than Jesus. Jesus remained in society because we had Medieval Ages. If you did not believe you die. So Jesus is dead, he does not exist, only as spirit as any other ordenary spirit of someone dead. 

[Mellowmarsh]

4 hours ago, Salariatu said:

There have been countless sons of god during history, is a human idea only. 

Jesus was a nobody

I think that’s true for present times too. Everyone identified as a human is a nobody, Jesus was no exception.

And yet this nobody that apparently identifies as being a human is just a human idea.

So yes, it is very human to think about God, and to claim there’s God, and that as a human nobody we are not God per se, rather God is every body.

 

In other words, nobody is claiming a God exists here, because God alone is. Nothing knows God, only God.

 

Edited September 7 by Mellowmarsh

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Even the 'second coming of Christ' is meant to illude to the Christ consciousness arising within you. That you awaken to it. Surrender.

I think the Christian religion can mess it up as the translations have been messed up from original Hebrew.

Many Christians literally think Christ will rise again... 

Whether Jesus existed or not is hearsay - but the motif is repeated all over the place

[James123]

1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Even the 'second coming of Christ' is meant to illude to the Christ consciousness arising within you. That you awaken to it. Surrender.

I think the Christian religion can mess it up as the translations have been messed up from original Hebrew.

Many Christians literally think Christ will rise again... 

Whether Jesus existed or not is hearsay - but the motif is repeated all over the place

Jesus is now, in the heart. There is no past.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

20 minutes ago, James123 said:

Jesus is now, in the heart. There is no past.

tired

[Mellowmarsh]

48 minutes ago, James123 said:

Jesus is now, in the heart.

No one can break your heart. When you’re heart belongs to Jesus, now there’s a thought.

 

❤️ We only die once. 😉

[Mellowmarsh]

2 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Many Christians literally think Christ will rise again... 

Maybe the Christian’s are being too literal.

 

 

[James123]

45 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

tired

All history or so called past etc... İs pointing out that only now is real, which can only happen without "you".

13 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

No one can break your heart. When you’re heart belongs to Jesus, now there’s a thought.

 

❤️ We only die once. 😉

❤️ ❤️ ❤️

What I mean is:

Prophet Muhammad, Jesus, Osho, Krishnamurti, papaji, Rumi, Yunus Emre, İmam Ghazali etc... All in heart, not as an organ, but as a guidence Love in Now.

 

 

 

[Mellowmarsh]

@James123 I know exactly what you mean. 💯

 

I know I’m being an ass sometimes, but really, my heart is in the right place. 
 

Peace 👊 Bro.

[Caoimhin]

Did the Gospel writers or the writers of the new testament believe this or have this intention when writing? Did the apostles believe this? Did the early church believe this? Because if they didn't believe this, then what you are doing is creating meanings that aren't there. I used to believe the same thing until I actually read the new testament and it's very clearly not the case. The level of mental gymnastics you must do to maintain these ideas while reading the new testament is Olympic level... It's very clear that not many of you have even read the new testament because the theory falls apart almost immediately, even if you go in wanting to believe that....

And if you disregard the new testament because you don't believe religion can be true or rather that Christianity is not as developed... Then why claim Christ consciousness as a thing when you don't even believe the most historical accounts of Christ? Do you know what Christ even thought? Because he never once taught anything remotely close to these new age and new thought theories...

He talked a lot about Jewish scripture , Jewish prophecy and Jewish laws and the old testament....

Therefore to know Christ or his teachings, you must know what he's referring to and not read him out of context...

These theories are baseless and very lazy conspiracies that I also used to believe, until I actually read the Bible.

 

 

Edited September 7 by Caoimhin
Added thoughts and correcting grammar

[James123]

1 hour ago, Mellowmarsh said:

@James123 I know exactly what you mean. 💯

 

I know I’m being an ass sometimes, but really, my heart is in the right place. 
 

Peace 👊 Bro.

That's totally fine.

Peace my brother.