MightyMind

The history of Islam

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Over the years I've been learning more about Islamic history and conquest, very interesting. It seems that the west has been at war with them for a long time. Even America, centuries ago, they were in conflict with Islamic pirates, and then Jefferson put an end to paying them jizya (tax for non-muslims), fascinating. An untold part of our history which is oddly not publicly known. Here's two great channels for this topic.

 

E5: Barbary Wars – Islam Demanded the Infidel Tax

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0grYwEw0bw&t=7s

 

Historian and author Raymond Ibrahim

Islam Exposed: The History They Don't Want You to Know

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHCtp0uU4AQ&t=428s 

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https://old.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/1m83abg/raymond_ibrahim_on_the_first_crusade/
 

https://old.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/kg23fy/what_is_the_scholarly_opinion_of_raymond_ibrahims/


The guy you brought up has been called out for multiple falsehoods, and he’s associated with a Zionist think tank founded by a guy who spread the belief Obama is a secret Muslim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Pipes#Obama's_religion_conspiracy

If you want to actually learn and not reinforce biases, study leading experts in the field, not propagandists.

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Read this book or audiobook its incredible. 

 

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@Raze   I'd consider looking at the primary sources which have shaped his world view and have him saying what he says.  With that in mind, I've seen Israeli's speak to how they have departments that focus on keeping the internet Israeli friendly (wikipedia in particular) so that is something to consider.

And now that you've brought up Zionism, here's something for people to consider. Investigate all the Jewish organizations and people there are, which aim to help "refugee's" and are playing a big part in facilitating mass migration and demographic changes through out the West. I'm not suggesting they or many of them have ill intent, but that for various reasons they are participating in this. Couple that with the Palestinian protests and the scores of believers and Imams who speak about world domination. Due to all that I've seen I'd suggest these protests are being used as a vehicle for the muslim brotherhood. All in all I'd suggest, (a small few) Jews and muslims, for various reasons they are working in tandem for conquest and to colonize. The rest are caught up in something that is bigger than them. The middle east horrors we are seeing, they are brought forth by those who believe in human sacrifice and see trauma as a tool to be used, on everyone including the west who watches, and who desperately wants to help. 

@enchanted Thanks for the share! I'll have a listen.

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@UnbornTao how does this pertain to the topic? 

 

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4 hours ago, MightyMind said:

@UnbornTao how does this pertain to the topic? 

 

Just in case.

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Just now, UnbornTao said:

Just in case.

Are you related to the Canadian government? :P

 

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11 minutes ago, MightyMind said:

Are you related to the Canadian government? :P

;)

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@zazen I've listened to a few of this man's lectures. He's interesting and so I'll give your share a listen soon. But if he's arguing that Islam was the first intellectual revolution this is akin to people thinking Christianity is what brought forth morality and the idea of monotheism - it did not. 

There are numerous cultures who claim they are the originators or they were first to knowing something when I would suggest knowledge has been around a lot longer than we realize. It bleeds over from culture to culture, century to century. Like the Greek warriors who interacted with the Buddhists in Afghanistan and who impacted each other and their "religions" in interesting ways.

And yes, America is a rich mans creation and the mythology that comes with it is a tool (while based off of partial truths) to control and manipulate. America is the new Rome used as center of power to further colonize while using the ignorant public as the one who funds it (taxes/robbery). Although I would suggest we don't disregard it all just like it would be stupid to disregard all of Islam - we have things to learn and pull from both America and it's story, just like Islam. 

6 hours ago, zazen said:

 

 

 

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I have no knowledge of the topic, But I know that Arab and Europeans clashed during the medieval ages. I know that Muslims used to control Spain at a point in time. There was also the whole Jerusalem thing with the Templars and shit. 

Fascinating stuff.

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@Basman Fascinating indeed. The more I learn the more I learn how we've been taught a black and white portrayal of how things came to be. 

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Arab societies seemed to be much more advanced in the past in terms of influence, art and learning. They invented math and letters bro. Then they got fucked by Mongols, become religious nut bags, stopped learning and eventually got outpaced.

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On 10/1/2025 at 10:35 PM, MightyMind said:

@zazen I've listened to a few of this man's lectures. He's interesting and so I'll give your share a listen soon. But if he's arguing that Islam was the first intellectual revolution this is akin to people thinking Christianity is what brought forth morality and the idea of monotheism - it did not. 

There are numerous cultures who claim they are the originators or they were first to knowing something when I would suggest knowledge has been around a lot longer than we realize. It bleeds over from culture to culture, century to century. Like the Greek warriors who interacted with the Buddhists in Afghanistan and who impacted each other and their "religions" in interesting ways.

And yes, America is a rich mans creation and the mythology that comes with it is a tool (while based off of partial truths) to control and manipulate. America is the new Rome used as center of power to further colonize while using the ignorant public as the one who funds it (taxes/robbery). Although I would suggest we don't disregard it all just like it would be stupid to disregard all of Islam - we have things to learn and pull from both America and it's story, just like Islam. 

I agree - civilizations are a chain, not a hierarchy where one has a monopoly on truth or culture over another. He brings up how Islam built upon Greek works also - very interesting.

 

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On 10/2/2025 at 0:50 AM, Basman said:

I have no knowledge of the topic, But I know that Arab and Europeans clashed during the medieval ages. I know that Muslims used to control Spain at a point in time. There was also the whole Jerusalem thing with the Templars and shit. 

Fascinating stuff.

Spain was promised to the Arabs 2,000 years ago lol. Now it's time for Arabs to return to the homeland

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