The End of Solipsism

[James123]

When the mind clings to the thought “only Being is real,” it has already created a division. There is the mind that thinks and the Being that is thought of. Separation is born. From this subtle duality arises solipsism, which is the notion that a separate thinker stands apart from Truth, claiming itself as the only reality.

But when the false “I” (which is the sense of a separate experiencer) is inquired into and dissolves, who remains to hold the idea? So, when the "I"-thought vanishes, that's when the Being reveals itself, whole, undivided, shining as all and as always present.

Therefore, the statement “only Being is real” ceases to be a thought. Direct Reality is beyond belief or concept.

One perspective looks through the mind and falls into solipsism, imagining Being as something to be grasped, possessed by “me” or believing “I am the Being.”

The other perspective does not look at all. It simply is. In pure Being, there is no observer, no observed, no argument, no conclusion, Only wholeness.

When this is abided in, conviction does not arise from logic or persuasion but from direct experience. You simply Be, because it is what you truly are.

In this abiding, the mind’s shadow of division vanishes. There is no two, no other. There is only Being, which is Pure Consciousness, undivided, complete, ever-present.

Best Regards,

[Sandroew]

Solipsims is a mindfuck dude. And a big one.

Leo explains solipsism exactly as what you are describing as Direct Reality. There are no other beings in your experience, only you. That IS experience and not thought.

If i had to try my best to articulate the mind fuck is that there is not only that other beings do not exist, but you don't exist either. Its the Godhead that experiences solipsism if that makes sense... There is nothing else just the Godhead, which is exactly what you are saying as well.

As someone wrote here on the forum recently, there are many paths that lead up to the mountain. They said its a Hindi proverb, but i think i heard it ffrom the Kung Fu Panda

Edited August 17 by Sandroew

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, James123 said:

But when the false “I” (which is the sense of a separate experiencer) is inquired into and dissolves,

What/who is inquiring into this " I"?

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, James123 said:

When this is abided in,

What is this and who is doing the abiding in? That's two separate things. Just asking for clarity.

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, James123 said:

because it is what you truly are.

What am I truly. There's an I there and what I am. "It is what..." states something different from the "you" that's truly is. In other words, you're telling me there's something else that exists that I think I am.

[Daniel Balan]

You have to watch the movie The Sixth Sense starring Bruce Willis to truly understand solipsism. The child character Cole Sear is the textbook definition of solipsism coupled with the role of Malcom Crowe played by Bruce Willis. "I see dead people". The reason the kid could see dead people while others couldn't is because those dead people were the hallucination of that kid's mind, his mind created them. And the character played by Bruce Willis was invisible to other people because he only existed in the plane of existence perceived by this kid Cole Sear. That movie is one of my all time favorites coupled with K PAX starring Kevin Spacey. 

 

[Daniel Balan]

The “world” is only as true as the consciousness perceiving it

[James123]

4 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

What/who is inquiring into this " I"?

 

4 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

What is this and who is doing the abiding in? That's two separate things. Just asking for clarity.

 

4 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

What am I truly. There's an I there and what I am. "It is what..." states something different from the "you" that's truly is. In other words, you're telling me there's something else that exists that I think I am.

You are like an 8th grader who is trying to prove that they’ve learned addition and subtraction, and keeps repeating it over and over again. 😂 😂 😂 

Love you 😊 ❤️ 

Edited August 18 by James123

[James123]

3 hours ago, Daniel Balan said:

kid's mind, his mind created them.

Did you read the thread? 😊 

[James123]

4 hours ago, Sandroew said:

Leo explains solipsism exactly as what you are describing as Direct Reality. There are no other beings in your experience, only you. That IS experience and not thought.

If i had to try my best to articulate the mind fuck is that there is not only that other beings do not exist, but you don't exist either. Its the Godhead that experiences solipsism if that makes sense... There is nothing else just the Godhead, which is exactly what you are saying as well.

How can one even experience if everything is it? Your answer is below as i said in the thread 👇 

5 hours ago, James123 said:

In pure Being, there is no observer, no observed, no argument, no conclusion, Only wholeness.

😊 

[Hojo]

@SandroewThe fear people have of solipsism is the same fear as the fear of death. Two truths you cannot handle. But once you become okay with one you become okay with the other.

Something is telling me if you can see death is not real you must also be able to see solipsism isnt real. Or the universe is so way way bigger and exciting that it dosent matter at all. Just like death will be exciting. Scary but wow factor x 10.

Leo has no idea that dmt is truth. Truth is something you see without a substance. Maybe a substance can make you see it but without him doing it solo he dosent know.

I heard something crazy a dmt scientist say. He said when you smoke it an entity appears outside your body and you are actually expericing the entity. Basically you dont see out your eyes and light is shining through your eyeballs and projects into your brain and thats what you see. The DMT scientist said that when you smoke it an entity appears outside of your body and its so alien to any entity on earth, you see something that your body cant decipher and you are taking the alien into your body. The other person dosent see it cause they didnt inhale the entity (ghost) into their body.

This makes sense why the native say spirits and shit because we are consuming alien entities that are interacting with us.

If you smoke a drug you are creating a ghost essentially, that our eyes cant see.

Edited August 18 by Hojo

[Sandroew]

It doen’t seem like debating here is going to be fruitful, all im going to say is that i disagree, if there is place for that in your topic.

Edited August 18 by Sandroew

[Mellowmarsh]

8 hours ago, James123 said:

So, when the "I"-thought vanishes, that's when the Being reveals itself, whole, undivided, shining as all and as always present.

Even the statement “Being reveals itself “ implies a division. 
 

Solipsist is just another word for everything, or reality, or this, which is without doubt or error irrefutably a fact as direct experience. Solipsist is not a “me” or a “someone “ No, that’s division. There is only this Solipsistic reality one without a second. You already are this.

 

Solipsistic reality cannot tell itself it is solipsistic without dividing itself into two, into knower and known.

Solipsistic reality is all there is, it doesn’t need to tell itself it’s solipsistic, it is already this all one, alone, illuminating present.

 

Solipsism is the absolute and there is only the absolute. Some of you posters just haven’t grasped the truth of what Solipsism actually is yet. I agree it’s difficult to hear, but it’s also very simple and easy to hear. 
 

Leo is correct about Solipsism. 
 

 

 

Edited August 18 by Mellowmarsh

[James123]

3 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Even the statement “Being reveals itself “ implies a division. 

Read it carefully, check the end, "as always" 😊 

4 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Solipsistic reality is all there is, it doesn’t need to tell itself it’s, it’s already this all one, alone illuminating present.

Who says it is alone, therefore solipstic reality😊 you it is crazy how mind works 😊 

8 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Solipsistic reality is all there is, it doesn’t need to tell itself it’s, it’s already this all one, alone illuminating present.

 

Solipsism is the absolute and there is only the absolute. Some of you posters just haven’t grasped the truth of what Solipsism actually is yet. I agree it’s difficult to hear, but it’s also very simple and easy to hear. 
 

Leo is correct about Solipsism. 

Look what Ramana Maharsi says:

"This perception of division between the seer and the object that is seen, is situated in the mind. For those remaining in the heart, the seer becomes one with the sight.” 😊 

[Mellowmarsh]

28 minutes ago, James123 said:

Read it carefully, check the end, "as always" 😊 

End implies beginning. This belongs to the dream. And the dream is all there is.

Anything is possible in the dream as potential is infinite. Solipsism is another word for  without beginning nor end, all alone, all one. No inside, no outside, no opposition, no argument, no other. Just this irrefutably impossible to negate or experience the absence of.

 

Leo is correct. 

[Mellowmarsh]

34 minutes ago, James123 said:

This perception of division between the seer and the object that is seen, is situated in the mind. For those remaining in the heart, the seer becomes one with the sight.” 😊 

You’re missing the point James.

 

Ramana didn’t say that, it’s an appearance of someone saying something, it’s the solipsistic dream appearing as itself.

[Mellowmarsh]

36 minutes ago, James123 said:

Who says it is alone, therefore solipstic reality😊 you it is crazy how mind works 😊 

To ask the question who implies separation.

 

Aloneness is already this without question.

[James123]

9 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

End implies beginning. This belongs to the dream. And the dream is all there is.

By "end" meaning is the end of sentence 😂  which is below 👇 😂 

9 hours ago, James123 said:

Being reveals itself, whole, undivided, shining as all and as always present.

 

9 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Anything is possible in the dream as potential is infinite. Solipsism is another word for  without beginning nor end, all alone, all one. No inside, no outside, no opposition, no argument, no other. Just this irrefutably impossible to negate or experience the absence of.

 

Leo is correct. 

"Believe" whatever "you" want my brother. 😊  

6 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

You’re missing the point James.

 

Ramana didn’t say that, it’s an appearance of someone saying something, it’s the solipsistic dream appearing as itself.

My brother, I laughed loudly. 😂 

4 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Aloneness is already this without question.

But, whom or who give the name or imagined as "Alone"? 😂

The moment it is described, it becomes an object, a thought, a concept, which belongs to mind.

Check the thread again. 😊 

Yo, İt is crazy how mind works 😊

Much love to you my brother. not to mind 😂 😂 😂 just joking 😊 😊 😊 

Edited August 18 by James123

[Mellowmarsh]

27 minutes ago, James123 said:

The moment it is described, it becomes an object, a thought, a concept, which belongs to mind.

An object is known to be an image of the imageless. So it’s all just nothing anyway, the stuff imagination and dreams are made of.

Solipsism is all there is. Many different words for the exact same being.

[Mellowmarsh]

30 minutes ago, James123 said:

The moment it is described, it becomes an object, a thought, a concept, which belongs to mind.

Another point to consider is the concept is this conception that cannot be negated or absent. 
Present is always present, never absent, the proof of this is upon awakening. 
One never experiences not waking up.

 

The mind is the dream, and there’s nothing beyond the dream.