All Prophets and Enlightened Masters Point to the One Truth

[Mellowmarsh]

11 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Because there is no "I" regarding One Truth or Awareness, in Solipsism there is an "I" (I am the only one in existence) so its contrary...

Its real simple, Existence/Reality goes from Subtle to Gross, we here on this planet, with Bodies, Minds, Physicality/Nature and everything that is form, is the Gross part, like layers on a Onion, what is on the outside is not what is inside.. We are not the Body or Mind or anything that is Accumulated over time via food, air etc., we are what was there before that, in that context we are all One and the Same, lets call it Life, a certain sort of Intelligence, the same as what was there before the Big Bang, non physicality in nature, no boundaries, complete and whole...Brahman in Hinduism!

Ok I understand what you are showing me here, but what about in the dream. Why can’t the dream within the empty awareness be the appearance of a solipsistic nature due to the dream being inseparable from the dreamer?

 

I’m simply trying to grasp Leo’s Solipsism idea, having watched the solipsism video several times, I kind of get it, I agree with Leo on the idea.

 

[James123]

11 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

You just said that there is only pure consciousness, so love for your girlfriend is an illusion that appears in consciousness, just like a thought.

I am not saying love your girlfriend.

All I am saying, just look at her without any judgement or thinking involved. Just simply look at her. 

When you not attached with thinking, "you" dissolves. 

Than "you" do not love, but You Be the Love. Because, Love is reflection of Being, nothing else.

[James123]

13 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Karma is stored in all the bodies (food body, mental body, energy body, etheric/astral body, bliss body), when we physically die, the food and mental body dissipate, but the karma goes on in the energy/etheric/bliss body, that is where the karma is, there is no discretion in this realm, you are ruled by your karma and tendencies, if you were Blissful at the time of death, you will be Blissful beyond belief there too, if you suffering in death, you suffer there too... so there is a form of Consciousness persay, if you were a highly conscious person, you can choose which body to go into next, for most this is done unconsciously, so there is choice before birth and after death, its all a matter of Awareness, the more Aware You are, the more choice You have, until Enlightenment happens where this cycle ends for most...

Enlightenment is "you therefore all the ideas above" dissolves, then veil lifts. That's it. 

[Hojo]

@Mellowmarsh Conciousness isn't mind but yes for conciousness. Its like a ball that everything is trapped in.

[Ishanga]

9 minutes ago, James123 said:

Enlightenment is "you therefore all the ideas above" dissolves, then veil lifts. That's it. 

Yes, but Realization of this, How does that happen if it is not already so within a Person?

Obviously the majority of ppl are not Enlightened, otherwise this world would be a very different place,  Lets Say Putin was Enlightened, would he be destroying Ukraine and ppl lives by the thousands?? I don't think so, so that is just one example, there are billions more.  So we can debate the process all we want, some say the process of Karma, Life/Death/Life samsara cycle doesn't matter, some say it does, as with knowledge of this, things may transform in someone's life, but there are way where this knowing doesn't help, some ppl are set up differently (different karmic makeup), so that is why the millions of methods shared, ppl have to find the way for themselves but with a Guru or Mentor it goes much smoother, like using a GPS system in a unfamiliar place!!

 

[Mellowmarsh]

37 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Mellowmarsh Conciousness isn't mind but yes for conciousness. It’s like a ball that everything is trapped in. 
 

okay. 👍 

[James123]

48 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Obviously the majority of ppl are not Enlightened, otherwise this world would be a very different place,  Lets Say Putin was Enlightened, would he be destroying Ukraine and ppl lives by the thousands?? I don't think so, so that is just one example, there are billions more.  So we can debate the process all we want, some say the process of Karma, Life/Death/Life samsara cycle doesn't matter, some say it does, as with knowledge of this, things may transform in someone's life, but there are way where this knowing doesn't help, some ppl are set up differently (different karmic makeup), so that is why the millions of methods shared, ppl have to find the way for themselves but with a Guru or Mentor it goes much smoother, like using a GPS system in a unfamiliar place!!

Actually, suffering is the key for enlightenment. Actually ,There is no enlightented person. Because, with enlightenment not only the person entire universe dies. Moreover, enlightenment is the best service for humanity. Because, there is no division/ego is there. Only One / oneness.

48 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Yes, but Realization of this, How does that happen if it is not already so within a Person?

İt is You. But, you are correct, if the person is not ready to completely surrender, the veil is not going to be lift.

[James123]

2 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Why can’t One Truth or Awareness itself be just another word for Solipsism?

When the mind clings to the idea that only Being is real, it secretly creates two, which is the mind and Being. This subtle division gives rise to the shadow of solipsism, as if there were a thinker apart from Truth. Separation appears.

But when self dissolves, when there is only Being itself, then the statement “only Being is real” carries no division. There is no “two,” no “other,” no mind apart. There is only the One, which is whole, undivided, without separation.

One perspective looks through the mind and falls into solipsism.

The other does not look at all. It simply is. Just Being Itself.

[Breakingthewall]

8 minutes ago, James123 said:

When the mind clings to the idea that only Being is real, it secretly creates two, which is the mind and Being. This subtle division gives rise to the shadow of solipsism, as if there were a thinker apart from Truth. Separation appears.

But when self dissolves, when there is only Being itself, then the statement “only Being is real” carries no division. There is no “two,” no “other,” no mind apart. There is only the One, which is whole, undivided, without separation.

One perspective looks through the mind and falls into solipsism.

The other does not look at all. It simply is. Just Being Itself.

You can be meditating and the being manifests in its totality, as you say, only the being is real, brilliant, and full. Sat chit Ananda.  It's one facet of reality. Then you can perceive the incessant living flow of absolute intelligence and be one with it. This is another facet of reality. And then you can cut off the hand of a guy who put it in your pocket to steal your wallet. This is another facet of reality.

[James123]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Then you can perceive the incessant living flow

When this happens, one doesn't think that you mentioned below 👇 

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

And then you can cut off the hand of a guy who put it in your pocket to steal your wallet. This is another facet of reality.

In the moment there is no future, no past. Therefore no imagination, no thinking. There is only Now. All reality is Now.

The mind, however, operates only in the dimensions of past and future. It gathers knowledge from the past and projects it into the future for its own protection. But in the pure immediacy of Now, the mind cannot function.