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Absolute Goodness

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15 hours ago, James123 said:

It is like the sun: it does not need a lamp to see itself; its shining is the seeing.

So, Nothing knows that. Eh?
Isn’t that statement still a form of knowing?

As you’ve already pointed out…”The moment you speak, you are already dividing the indivisible”

Indivisible implies division. This division is humanly unavoidably created. You never speak of silence by filling it up with words.

That’s why animals are truly authentic enlightened beings, unlike human beings who identify and attach to their imagined conceptual language.

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24 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

As you’ve already pointed out…”The moment you speak, you are already dividing the indivisible”

Definitely. Words can only point out to. İf anyone made the definition of god, they are deluded. Because, any definition comes from mind (attachment, experience, thoughts, realization). This is the problem of %99 of the people in the forum.

27 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

That’s why animals are truly authentic enlightened beings, unlike human beings who identify and attach to their imagined conceptual language.

Of course. You are 💯 right.

When one realizes what God is, you don't need to help someone via speaking, you can hug, cry, laugh, dance, eat, feed together.

30 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

You never speak of silence by filling it up with words.

Only reason why I am talking here is to people drop "themselves". Silence is the key, you are 💯 right. However, before that the people in forum doesn't even know, they are just attached with mind. After understanding this, silence take place. And I never reached to point with them.

All we talking is their experiences and realizations. İncluding leo. They can't see how powerful is the mind. But, one they see, your point will come.


"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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29 minutes ago, James123 said:

When one realizes what God is, you don't need to help someone via speaking, you can hug, cry, laugh, dance, eat, feed together.

I really vibe with this point.

 

I really would love to live in a world where human beings could just be, hug,cry,laugh,dance, eat, and love together without murmuring a single word to each other. 
 

However, that’s obviously not how the human experience plays out, is it.

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4 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

I really vibe with this point.

 

I really would love to live in a world where human beings could just be, hug,cry,laugh,dance, eat, and love together without murmuring a single word to each other. 
 

However, that’s obviously not how the human experience plays out, is it.

I recommend you to go to child protection places, bring them chocolate, chips, dresses, toys, and visit them always. And cry cry cry endlessly cry. You don't need to cry in front of them. But wherever you are just cry, you will be fullfiled. 


"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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4 minutes ago, James123 said:

I recommend you to go to child protection places, bring them chocolate, chips, dresses, toys, and visit them always. And cry cry cry endlessly cry. You don't need to cry in front of them. But wherever you are just cry, you will be fullfiled. 

Yes, I’m already doing the crying and giving away stuff for free part.. But nothing changes. Humans do what humans do. In the same context it’s no good judging or chastising a dog for what dogs do.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Yes, I’m already doing the crying and giving away stuff for free part.. But nothing changes. Humans do what humans do. In the same context it’s no good judging or chastising a dog for what dogs do.

 

 

That's totally fine. Don't you feel that when you cry, there is absolute love, and there is no you there?


"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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3 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

I really vibe with this point.

 

I really would love to live in a world where human beings could just be, hug,cry,laugh,dance, eat, and love together without murmuring a single word to each other. 
 

However, that’s obviously not how the human experience plays out, is it.

Yeah, you and James are right. God made humans wrong. Thank goodness we, the spiritual people, are here to correct that fool god, that create nonsense, like thoughts or that ego that not exist. Poor God, is retarded, but we can fix his mess. 

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8 hours ago, James123 said:

That's totally fine. Don't you feel that when you cry, there is absolute love, and there is no you there?

Yes, I’ve felt absolute love during some crying bouts. And yes it definitely feels like there’s no me present, there’s just this raw emotion wanting out, the emotion feels like an aching sadness for something, but I can’t seem to fathom it? Unless I’m just tired of being alive or something, I’m not sure what’s going on. I’ve also heard that many animals mourn the deaths of their own species as well. I don’t know, it’s like what Osho said about awareness being a disturbance, and yet at the same time feels like an ecstasy.

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10 hours ago, James123 said:

All we talking is their experiences and realizations. İncluding leo. They can't see how powerful is the mind. But, one they see, your point will come.

Leo has said it takes a lot of thinking and much deep self introspection practicing in order to enter the nondual reality of being. And that to recognise our innate sense of divine sovereignty known as God is already within each and every one of us.

I happen to agree with Leo on this point. Personally though, I think the purpose of the game is to end the game and live out the rest of eternity shining. 🌞

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39 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

but I can’t seem to fathom it?

"you" can't. There is no you there. Therefore, it is unfathomable. Because, you are trying to be identity with it, just let go you and be pure ecstacy. 

43 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Osho said about awareness being a disturbance, and yet at the same time feels like an ecstasy.

Disturbance to "you". But, real You is that absolute. 

28 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Leo has said it takes a lot of thinking and much deep self introspection practicing in order to enter the nondual reality of being. And that to recognise our innate sense of divine sovereignty known as God is already within each and every one of us.

I happen to agree with Leo on this point. Personally though, I think the purpose of the game is to end the game and live out the rest of eternity shining. 🌞

Only way to Be is completely opposite, letting go the person / ego who thinks, and it is complete death for the ego. And that's enlightenment. Ego doesn't come back. 

You are pure, raw being, which ever-present, untouched, unchanging, which is a silent, luminous feeling at the core of all experience.

The pure feeling i speak of is the Being itself, prior to mind, prior to thought.

Do not attempt to grasp it as an object; simply abide as it, without turning outward.

When the "I"-thought subsides, what remains is this ever-present Being, unchanging and whole.


"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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23 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

@James123 I concur ❤️

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Edited by James123

"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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2 hours ago, James123 said:

You are pure, raw being, which ever-present, untouched, unchanging, which is a silent, luminous feeling at the core of all experience.

Yes, the perceiver, a center, that is much better than this dirty experience and thought, so human. Nice duality. 

that luminous being ever present is  an appearance due the becoming, the witness. Just a duality that is happening in the flow 

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All that you speak about onmnipresence, "DEEP SLEEP," & the faulty nature of religion is pricklish bullshit that makes me squint & cringe &,.... yes, my finger is now reaching to pick my asshole out of this conundrum, your word salad, this feeble attempt at again grasping the so awfully confused combination of beliefs that you unconsciously spew forth as if you were God.

 

See, the reason why anyone posts anything on this forum is because, even if they write about the dynamics of attention/validation-seeking that are so pertinent to this human condition, is because they are seeking attention and validation, because they are actually unsure of their bullshit, if it really holds muster against the weight of what they know deep inside to be true beyond words; even James123, that fountain, that bafoon of nonsense forever spewing forth:

 

It is the claim of knowing a damn thing about anything or even everything at once that stands as the final barrier between you and You, nothing and God, everything and the Kashmiri-esque suspicion & paranoia that something or someone is pursuing the explication of your vulnerability, the revelation of your clownery, the disgusted look upon one's face when they come to see that no One is looking at them, no one is judging them for the undone or already done foes of yore, those sins of the past, and these unfulfilled Sexual desires which are masqueraded over with yet more God-speak, this rambling that leads nowhere, this prention and posturing and ugly, untrue programming that keeps you stuck in a loop, The One Reading These WORDs.

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36 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Yes, the perceiver, a center, that is much better than this dirty experience and thought, so human. Nice duality. 

that luminous being ever present is  an appearance due the becoming, the witness. Just a duality that is happening in the flow 

Just be witness of these thoughts, till witness disseappears.


"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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1 hour ago, James123 said:

Just be witness of these thoughts, till witness disseappears.

 Then it's not ever present 

 

5 hours ago, James123 said:

You are pure, raw being, which ever-present, untouched, unchanging, which is a silent, luminous feeling at the core of all experience

 

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18 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Then it's not ever present 

 

Not the Self or Being. What I mentioned is The ego that is not present.


"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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4 minutes ago, James123 said:

Not the Self or Being. What I mentioned is The ego that is not present.

The ego is a contracted expression of the absolute being. It is the absolute being in a limited energetic configuration. If the limits dissolve, the absolute being manifests, and the absolute being includes thoughts and silence, hence it is absolute

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26 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The ego is a contracted expression of the absolute being. It is the absolute being in a limited energetic configuration. If the limits dissolve, the absolute being manifests, and the absolute being includes thoughts and silence, hence it is absolute

İf you wanna don't leave your personality, just don't drop it as you are doing.

However, The ego is nothing apart from the Being. It is merely the ‘I’-thought, which is a limitation superimposed upon the unlimited. When this limitation is inquired into and found to have no substance, only the Being remains.

The Being is not gained; it has never been lost. In its nature, it is whole, containing silence and the play of thoughts without being touched by either.


"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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