Is the DC takeover soft authoritarianism

[Inliytened1]

I thought you Project 2025 goons would be all over this.  The devil easily masks his actions.  Even over you.  He has slipped this by you and there isn't one post about it.

Trump just took overtook the police in DC with the power of the federal government and you guys are saying nothing.  

Federal troops will comb the streets of DC with free reign and there isn't a peep from the paranoid.

What gives. 

Edited Tuesday at 11:34 PM by Inliytened1

[Joshe]

Just another day. Not enough people care. 

[Inliytened1]

24 minutes ago, Joshe said:

Just another day. Not enough people care. 

I would start caring because he wants to do this elsewhere as well. Not sure i like it.

[enchanted]

 Yes the US is sliding into autocracy there is little debate about it. Trump is taking a play right out of Orbans book and he has praised Orban and other dictators repeatedly throughout the campaign and during his first presidency countless times. 

This is was expected but not this early into the presidency. Can't wait to see what the rest of these four years will look like. 

I will admit the tent cities are an embarrassment to North America and it's about time someone cleaned them up. It's a bipartisan issue, and even though I'm on the left, sending the homeless to prison is better than letting them do drugs on the street. 

 

Edited Wednesday at 12:42 AM by enchanted

[Hardkill]

17 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

I would start caring because he wants to do this elsewhere as well. Not sure i like it.

Needless to say, we told you so before Trump got elected last year

[Inliytened1]

17 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

Needless to say, we told you so before Trump got elected last year

You told me so but you offered no better alternatives. 

[Inliytened1]

39 minutes ago, enchanted said:

 Yes the US is sliding into autocracy there is little debate about it. Trump is taking a play right out of Orbans book and he has praised Orban and other dictators repeatedly throughout the campaign and during his first presidency countless times. 

This is was expected but not this early into the presidency. Can't wait to see what the rest of these four years will look like. 

I will admit the tent cities are an embarrassment to North America and it's about time someone cleaned them up. It's a bipartisan issue, and even though I'm on the left, sending the homeless to prison is better than letting them do drugs on the street. 

 

I thought Pam's comment was despicable.   A drug addict was brought back to life in the middle of families walking their dog.  Get rid of them.  That crushed me because these people are no different than you and me, just struggling with addiction.  That was a horribly insensitive thing to say. 

And how can you say send them to prison?  Send the homeless to prison? What are you talking about?  You're on the left? Far from it bro.

Edited Wednesday at 01:07 AM by Inliytened1

[Puer Aeternus]

52 minutes ago, enchanted said:

I will admit the tent cities are an embarrassment to North America and it's about time someone cleaned them up. It's a bipartisan issue, and even though I'm on the left, sending the homeless to prison is better than letting them do drugs on the street. 

I guess it's a win if you want to get homelessness out of sight. Functioning people will be immediately less affected by not having to deal with some of the sketchy ones.

But of course, such tent cities are a bi-product of America being what it is? It's not addressing what is needed to be. All it does is sweep the problem under the rug.

But yes, let's send a population often intensely traumatized/mental disordered to prison. That way they can have criminal record and spend all day networking and surviving with actual criminals. Cause American prison has totally been proven a great place for rehabilitation... Rigggght?! 

No. I mean sure they don't have as easy of access to drugs as they once did. But the other potential cons? Would be a disaster if it happens en mass.

And it's Trump doing it 💀 you think he's going to imprison the homeless with love? C'mon man. 

[Inliytened1]

4 minutes ago, Puer Aeternus said:

I guess it's a win if you want to get homelessness out of sight.

Fucking monsters. 

[Puer Aeternus]

Just now, Inliytened1 said:

Fucking monsters. 

Just kinda is what it is. 

Just like the HOA doesn't want low income housing in their backyard.

Businesses want to make money, tent cities and the homeless can be a detriment to local businesses and tourism in general. And not like there's zero threat to the public too. But that's mostly where it's really bad. Kids in LA having to walk to school through an open air drug market type beat. That's not the overwhelming majority of places though.

But people don't want to spend the money or time to invest in an actual solution that gets to the bottom of things. They don't want the collective accountability.

So, it gets pushed out of sight. Forgotten, ignored, emotionally distanced from. Where the issues only grows and festers. 

[Inliytened1]

4 minutes ago, Puer Aeternus said:

 

But people don't want to spend the money or time to invest in an actual solution that gets to the bottom of things. They don't want the collective accountability.

 

No they don't.  They just want to invoke the military to force them away.   In Trump's own words - they will exist but they will exist far far away.  It's a fucked up world.  If only one of his sons was touched by addiction he would see the world differently.  Not wishing that but Trump has been very lucky.  It only lasts so long.

Edited Wednesday at 01:50 AM by Inliytened1

[enchanted]

47 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

And how can you say send them to prison?  Send the homeless to prison? What are you talking about?  You're on the left? Far from it bro.

Yes I am friend. I vote left but on this one issue I believe a sheltered space, with food, water, health care, and no drugs is better than a free-for-all on the streets. Yes I agree the prisons should be better.

Tent cities are an embarrassment to our country and that's a nonpartisan stance. The left has shown its incapable of doing anything so it's no surprise the strongman approach won out. I think doing something is better than nothing. 

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, enchanted said:

Yes I am friend. I vote left but on this one issue I believe a sheltered space, with food, water, health care, and no drugs is better than a free-for-all on the streets. Yes I agree the prisons should be better.

Tent cities are an embarrassment to our country and that's a nonpartisan stance. The left has shown its incapable of doing anything so it's no surprise the strongman approach won out. I think doing something is better than nothing. 

So you would rather your brother suffered in a closed off cell then give their state a poor reputation.  OK. I get the whole detox thing.  But you don't need prison for detox you just need an inpatient rehab. 

Edited Wednesday at 02:01 AM by Inliytened1

[Elliott]

It's just a distraction from the Epstein-Trump files. They'll do nothing like they did nothing in L.A.. Still an impeachable offense though.

[enchanted]

4 minutes ago, Elliott said:

It's just a distraction from the Epstein-Trump files. They'll do nothing like they did nothing in L.A.. Still an impeachable offense though.

Exactly, extremely reactionary and chaotic. Who knows what the next tweet will bring tomorrow. 

[enchanted]

18 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

So you would rather your brother suffered in a closed off cell then give their state a poor reputation.  OK. I get the whole detox thing.  But you don't need prison for detox you just need an inpatient rehab. 

Yes I'd confine my brother (temporarily) if he was about to mutilate himself. Of course effective social programs based on empathy is the best way. Medicare for all and gun control would also be good but seems to be hard to get in the US. 

 

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, enchanted said:

Yes I'd confine my brother (temporarily) if he was about to mutilate himself. Of course effective social programs based on empathy is the best way. Medicare for all and gun control would also be good but seems to be hard to get in the US. 

 

No one said he was about to mutilate himself.

"Of course effective social programs based on empathy is the best way."

Stick to that.  You're much more likeable as a leftist. 

[enchanted]

20 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

No one said he was about to mutilate himself.

"Of course effective social programs based on empathy is the best way."

Stick to that.  You're much more likeable as a leftist. 

Thank you. I'll take your advice and I agree left is the way to go. But couldn't years of doing fentanyl and heroin on the streets be considered mutilation/permanent self-harm? Isn't prison better than that? I'd choose prison for myself. 

Edited Wednesday at 02:46 AM by enchanted

[Inliytened1]

4 minutes ago, enchanted said:

Thank you. I'll take your advice and I agree left is the way to go. But couldn't years of doing fentanyl and heroin on the streets be considered mutilation/permanent self-harm? 

No.  You clearly don't understand. It is a disease. Now..not all homeless are. In fact I'd wager that most of them are not. They're just wanting to use the system.  But we can't ignore those really suffering from disease to those that are just lazy. We have to help the ones suffering. 

Edited Wednesday at 02:50 AM by Inliytened1

[kray]

3 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

I thought you Project 2025 goons would be all over this.  The devil easily masks his actions.  Even over you.  He has slipped this by you and there isn't one post about it.

Trump just took overtook the police in DC with the power of the federal government and you guys are saying nothing.  

Federal troops will comb the streets of DC with free reign and there isn't a peep from the paranoid.

What gives. 

I mean realistically do you want homeless drugs addicts on the streets? I know I don’t. And let’s be real, there has been an uptick in petty crime (violent crimes have gone down for sure) in most of our cities. The surprising amount of young thugs I saw on the streets of San Francisco was just sad. These guys are not representative of their community, but they are out on the streets and involving in criminal activities. Trumps deployment of the national guard, though an extreme measure, is supposed to combat this issue of reckless crime on the streets. I don’t agree with his tactics, but we do need to do something about criminals walking around city streets, and the homeless population that, let’s be real, can be a danger to themselves and others around them. I think the idea of housing the homeless in shelters outside the city is a great idea! I’m definitely not maga, but let’s make cities clean and civilized again!