Is the DC takeover soft authoritarianism

[Inliytened1]

11 minutes ago, kray said:

I mean realistically do you want homeless drugs addicts on the streets? 

First off you might want to make a distinction because there can be homelessness for many different reasons.  Drugs is only one.  But let's just get rid of them and make them go far far away.  You're not helping the Trump movement.  You're helping it.

 

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 03:26 AM by Inliytened1

[enchanted]

6 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

First off you might want to make a distinction because there can be homelessness for many different reasons.  Drugs is only one.  But let's just get rid of them and make them go far far away.  You're not helping the Trump movement.  You're helping it.

5 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

 

Yes we need more housing and a whole bunch of other things. Maybe use the models of other countries without homelessness. 

[Inliytened1]

5 minutes ago, enchanted said:

Hard drugs on the streets is self mutilation, doesn't matter if a disease is making you do it. You obviously wouldn't mutilate yourself if you were mentally healthy. But yes it's a horrible situation, with a horrible President residing over it. It's the end of America as we know it. 

If it's a disease it's not the self.  A disease is something other than the self. Its that which destroys the self.  So I'm saying it is precisely not that.  Look..the bottom line is you want to just erase a certain amount of the population.   It's not cool.  No matter how you spin it.

Edited Wednesday at 03:33 AM by Inliytened1

[enchanted]

4 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

If it's a disease it's not the self.  A disease is something other than the self. Its that which destroys the self.  So I'm saying it is precisely not that.  Look..the bottom line is you want to just erase a certain amount of the population.   It's not cool.  No matter how you spin it.

 Ya I suppose you are right

[Inliytened1]

24 minutes ago, enchanted said:

 Ya I suppose you are right

And you're left how?  Let's sweep away the homeless so we got that.  Where exactly are you left?

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 04:07 AM by Inliytened1

[Joshe]

These problems could largely be solved with proper development and education. The education system has to be completely refactored. Those prone to criminality, laziness, mental disorders, addiction, etc., should be accounted for and preemptively dealt with via the education system. At least, if we’re to look to society to solve these problems. It would take time to reap the harvest but I can’t think of a better way. Authoritarianism will backfire tremendously, same as it does in the nuclear family. 

[Inliytened1]

6 minutes ago, Joshe said:

These problems could largely be solved with proper development and education. The education system has to be completely refactored. Those prone to criminality, laziness, mental disorders, addiction, etc., should be accounted for and preemptively dealt with via the education system. At least, if we’re to look to society to solve these problems. It would take time to reap the harvest but I can’t think of a better way. Authoritarianism will backfire tremendously, same as it does in the nuclear family. 

Those prone to criminality, mental disorders and addiction? Lol.  OK. Maybe take some advice from @enchanted

[Joshe]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Those prone to criminality, mental disorders and addiction? Lol.  OK. Maybe take some advice from @enchanted

You high tonight? 

[Inliytened1]

Just now, Joshe said:

You high tonight? 

Do you hear how you sound? You want to play the liberal yet you want to group criminals and those with mental disorders in the same group. 

 

[Joshe]

15 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Do you hear how you sound? You want to play the liberal yet you want to group criminals and those with mental disorders in the same group. 

 

You’re assuming to know how I distinguish my list items, but I said absolutely nothing to give you reason to believe I group criminals and the mentally unwell in the same bucket. I was identifying multiple issues and how they might be mitigated or solved. 

Also, I don’t box myself in with labels such as “liberal”. lol 

Edited Wednesday at 04:42 AM by Joshe

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Joshe said:

You’re assuming to know how I distinguish my list items, but I said absolutely nothing to give you reason to believe I group criminals and the mentally unwell in the same bucket. I was identifying multiple issues and how they might be mitigated or solved. 

Let me enlighten you.  Would you handle cancer patients the same way.

[Joshe]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

Let me enlighten you.  Would you handle cancer patients the same way.

We got our wires crossed here bro. What is it you think I was saying? 

I was saying the education system could be used to screen all humans for all sorts of potential disorders or even attitudes, and work to make them healthier as children, such that those prone to criminality would understand that’s no way to be by the time they reach their teens, and the mentally ill could be screened and worked with in a way that helps heal them and make them better adjusted. Does that make sense? I was talking about using the same system to solve different problems. 

[Inliytened1]

6 minutes ago, Joshe said:

We got our wires crossed here bro. What is it you think I was saying? 

I was saying the education system could be used to screen all humans for all sorts of potential disorders or even attitudes, and work to make them healthier as children, such that those prone to criminality would understand that’s no way to be by the time they reach their teens, and the mentally ill could be screened and worked with in a way that helps heal them and make them better adjusted. Does that make sense? I was talking about using the same system to solve different problems. 

That sounds better.  For a minute there you just sounded like you wanted to throw away anything that didn't fit into your ideals away into a separate bucket.  Very much like the very authoritarians you want to oppose. 

Edited Wednesday at 05:00 AM by Inliytened1

[Joshe]

2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

That sounds better.  For a minute there you just sounded like you wanted to throw away anything that didn't fit into your ideals away into a separate bucket.  Very much like the very autharitarians you want to oppose. 

Yes, for a minute there, I thought you were high and processing sloppily. 😂

[Inliytened1]

10 minutes ago, Joshe said:

Yes, for a minute there, I thought you were high and processing sloppily. 😂

I didn't mean to make this about the homeless but it's extremely sad. The insensitivity of the right just pours salt on the wound.  How anyone on the left can agree with them is beyond me.

 

Edited Wednesday at 05:16 AM by Inliytened1

[Joshe]

17 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

I didn't mean to make this about the homeless but it's extremely sad. The insensitivity of the right just pours salt on the wound.  How anyone on the left can agree with them is beyond me.

 

Yes, it isn’t right at all, but the majority don’t care. People getting fucked over by this administration is nothing new, and it will only happen more and more. Maybe when enough people confront cold reality, it will cause the majority to take things a little more seriously. 

But yeah, being on the left and for pushing the homeless out is unusual. But his position is logical. I disagree with it, the same as I disagree with spanking children as corrective punishment, but I get how it seems like a good strategy. IMO, strategies like these that do not factor in long term risks are not good. Cruelty will always produce more bad fruit than good. 

Edited Wednesday at 05:33 AM by Joshe

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, Joshe said:

Yes, it isn’t right at all, but the majority don’t care. People getting fucked over by this administration is nothing new, and it will only happen more and more. Maybe when enough people confront cold reality, it will cause the majority to take things a little more seriously. 

But yeah, being on the left and for pushing the homeless out is unusual. But his position is logical. I disagree with it, the same as I disagree with spanking children as corrective punishment, but I get how it seems like a good strategy. IMO, strategies like these that do not factor in long term risks are not good. 

So what you do think about the national guard taking over the police in the DC? That's the biggest threat right now.  Do you feel he will do it elsewhere? Everyone was afraid of democracy being lost.  Well this is the beginning.  If it doesn't come to anything but protection fine. But I really don't want the military snooping around my door.

[Joshe]

11 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

So what you do think about the national guard taking over the police in the DC? That's the biggest threat right now.  Do you feel he will do it elsewhere? Everyone was afraid of democracy being lost.  Well this is the beginning.  If it doesn't come to anything but protection fine. But I really don't want the military snooping around my door.

Lol, you and me both. I don’t think it would come to that. There’d be too much backlash. I think he can get away with it in DC, but not many other places. Maybe some red states, but I’m not sure. I watched a video earlier that explained a bit:
 

 

Edited Wednesday at 05:46 AM by Joshe

[DocWatts]

Some context and perspective

Let's not lose the plot - Diddlin' Don has placed his bloated, disgusting foot all the way down on the authoritarian accelerator as a direct response to his Epstein problems not going away.

In addition to being a dangerous power grab, it's important to keep in mind that this is also psychological warfare - outrage bate calculated to terrify us while draw attention away from Trump's involvement with a literal child sex trafficking ring. 

Don't fall for it - as we push back against this dangerous escalation, we also need to be loudly and unapologetically drawing attention to the fact that Trump is soft-launching martial law so we're not talking about Epstein. Don't forget that this move is coming on the heels of his DOJ giving sweetheart deal to Ghislaine Maxwell as part of a blatant cover up.

This matters because Epstein is an area where he is very vulnerable - a growing crack in his pillars of support that we need to be pushing on as we speak, post, and protest against this fascist theatre. 

Here's some free images and memes to that effect.

Edited Wednesday at 02:38 PM by DocWatts

[DocWatts]

Additionally, he's also actively alienating the national guard - the majority of whom are not MAGA and are uncomfortable being deployed against American citizens.

Morale among the troops who are being used for this stunt is reportedly in the shitter.

Most of our national guard are ordinary people who signed up to help their communities by aiding in things like disaster relief. They didn't sign up to become political puppets for wanna-be dictator.

Edited Wednesday at 02:36 PM by DocWatts