Nisargadatta and Tony Parsons discussion (gpt)

[PurpleTree]

4 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Has anyone asked Tony how he came to such a conclusion? . 

Uhm yes there are interviews.

[Inliytened1]

5 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Uhm yes there are interviews.

And? 

[James123]

15 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Has anyone asked Tony how he came to such a conclusion? Was it just a sudden insight? Was it for you?  Most are not that fortunate if it truly was awakening.   You know this.  You have done meditation because I've seen you speak about it. So there was one who meditated.  Or one who embraced actuality. 

I just see that past, present, and future aren’t really separate. They only seem to exist when I think about them.

For example, if I think of five years ago, it appears real now. But if I shift and think of three years ago, then five years ago disappears. It’s not there anymore, only what I’m thinking now seems to exist. Such as think about Jamaica now, see it is exist now.

So actually, time is just happening in the mind.

Without thinking, there is no past or future.

There’s just now, still.

And because I don’t engage with thinking anymore, I also see that the “me” who would think, remember, meditate or anticipate doesn’t really exist. That “me” was just a collection of thoughts, memories, and ideas.

Now, what remains is just presence.

Therefore, I can't answer from memory or imagination.

[PurpleTree]

12 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

And? 

What?

[PurpleTree]

Eckhart Tolle Jim Newman conversation (gpt)

 

Absolutely — here’s an imagined conversation between Eckhart Tolle and Jim Newman, grounded in their known styles and teachings. The dialogue centers on the theme: “What if there is no self?” This is a central premise for both, though they approach it in markedly different ways.

 

 

 

 

🟦 

Setting

: A quiet studio with no audience, just two chairs, a plant, and natural light. The energy is calm and still. They’ve just shared tea. A moment of silence settles before the conversation begins.*

 

 

 

 

Eckhart Tolle:

There is a certain irony in asking, “What if there is no self?” Because the one who asks is precisely that illusory self.

 

Jim Newman:

Yes… the question is already the dream. It arises out of the appearance of separation. But there is no one. There never has been.

 

Eckhart:

And yet, for many, the felt experience of being someone—separate, thinking, choosing—is deeply real. Part of awakening is witnessing this illusion arise, and not identifying with it.

 

Jim:

Or… nothing needs to happen. There’s no awakening. No progress. No steps. This—what’s happening—is already everything. The search is already the dream. No one needs to see through it.

 

Eckhart: (smiles gently)

Yes. And yet, what you describe is often terrifying for the mind. It wants a path, a method, some progression to hold on to. So, I speak of presence—of being the witnessing awareness—as a doorway to what you point to.

 

Jim:

And I say even that is part of the illusion. There’s no awareness that’s separate. Presence isn’t an object to find. The one trying to find it doesn’t exist.

 

Eckhart:

Of course. And yet… a shift does occur. In my own life, there was a moment when the structure of ego collapsed. What remained was peace, spaciousness—Being itself.

 

Jim:

Yes. And that too is only a story appearing in nothing. There’s no you it happened to.

 

Eckhart:

That may be so from the absolute perspective. But the relative still appears—time, story, relationships. I often say: “You are the space in which it all happens.”

 

Jim:

And I say there is no ‘you.’ There is only what’s happening. No center. No space. Just this. Already whole.

 

 

 

 

🔸 

Pause. Both sit in silence. It’s not awkward—it’s full.

 

 

 

 

Eckhart:

Perhaps what we offer is complementary. I help people soften into now. You point directly to the absence of anyone to soften.

 

Jim:

Maybe. Or maybe not. But there’s no one here who knows.

 

Eckhart: (chuckles softly)

Yes. And yet somehow, these words… are still spoken.

 

Jim:

They’re just sounds. Just happening. Like breathing. Like silence.

 

 

 

 

🟦 

Closing Silence. They sit without words. A bird chirps outside. Nothing changes. Nothing needs to.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[PurpleTree]

 Ram Dass & Andreas Müller  🌲 conversation (GpT)

 

🌿 

Scene: A quiet garden. A low table with tea between them. Birds chirp occasionally. Ram Dass smiles warmly. Andreas Müller sits relaxed, still.

 

 

 

 

Ram Dass (smiling softly):

So, Andreas… tell me. In your view, there’s no one here. No self, no journey. Just this.

 

Andreas Müller (nods slowly):

Exactly. There is no self. No separate person. No story that belongs to anyone. Just what appears. The appearance doesn’t need meaning—it is already whole.

 

Ram Dass:

I understand. I used to think I was someone going somewhere… until I realized the “I” was just another thought. Yet… love remained. When the “me” thinned out, the heart opened.

 

Andreas:

Yes. And that love too… is simply what’s happening. Not personal. Not from someone to someone. Just… love. Just presence appearing as connection.

 

Ram Dass (with a slight chuckle):

You know, I spent decades helping people shift from ego to soul, then beyond even the soul. But I always held a deep compassion for the seeker. For the suffering of thinking we are separate.

 

Andreas:

I hear that. But in this message, even compassion is empty. Not cold—but not held by anyone. Suffering appears. Seeking appears. They are not wrong. But they belong to no one.

 

Ram Dass:

I would agree—ultimately. But sometimes I met people in despair, and what they needed wasn’t a teaching. They needed someone to be with them. Not to dissolve their story, but to hold it gently. To love it.

 

Andreas (pauses, then nods):

That’s beautiful. And what’s amazing is—there was never anyone doing that. It just happened. Love happened. Holding happened. The idea that someone did it is the illusion.

 

 

 

 

🌬️ 

A breeze rustles the leaves. Silence falls naturally.

 

 

 

 

Ram Dass (softly):

You know… after my stroke, there was no “me” that could hold everything together anymore. Just breath. Just this. I used to call it fierce grace.

 

Andreas:

Yes. Beautiful. It’s just what is. There is no need for it to be accepted or resisted. It’s simply this… already complete.

 

Ram Dass:

So, no one becomes enlightened in your view?

 

Andreas (smiling gently):

No one becomes enlightened. There’s no process. No transformation. No arrival. The illusion of “me” may dissolve, but it was never real. What remains… is what always was.

 

Ram Dass:

And yet… we are here, sharing tea, speaking words, listening to birds. Isn’t that the miracle?

 

Andreas:

Yes. And there’s no one here to witness it. Yet it shines.

 

 

 

 

☀️ 

The light begins to fade. A silence stretches—not empty, but full. Ram Dass bows slightly. Andreas smiles, not from someone, but as the effortless face of this moment.

 

 

 

[PurpleTree]

Leo Gura 🦁 & Osho ⌚️ (gpt) conversation 

 

 

They both speak boldly—Leo with intense intellectual precision and deep mystical inquiry; Osho with poetic ambiguity, fearless contradiction, and laughter.

 

 

 

 

🔮 

Scene: A candlelit room with Eastern cushions, incense burning. Leo and Osho sit cross-legged. Silence hangs like a friend.

 

 

 

 

Leo Gura:

The ego is a self-constructed hallucination. It’s not merely a belief—it’s a structure of being. When I became directly conscious that I was God… the self dissolved into pure, infinite love. It was terrifying. And beautiful.

 

Osho (smiling with eyes half-closed):

Yes, yes. But the moment you say “I became conscious,” the ego sneaks in through the back door. God does not become conscious. Only God is. And God is playing… hide and seek. With Himself.

 

Leo (leaning forward):

Of course. But if I don’t articulate it that way, people don’t get it. I’m trying to lead people through spiral dynamics, epistemology, non-duality, metaphysics—all the way to direct realization.

 

Osho (chuckling):

Ah, the teacher’s burden! Wanting to help the seeker who does not exist. It is beautiful… and it is nonsense. A cosmic joke. And yet—how compassionate to play it sincerely.

 

Leo:

But language can point. Models can help. We can deconstruct paradigms, reverse-engineer awakening.

 

Osho:

Yes, we can build ladders. But Truth is not at the top. Truth is when the ladder vanishes. And so does the climber. Even the word “truth” becomes a lie.

 

 

 

 

🌀 

A moment of deep stillness. No mind. Then, both laugh.

 

 

 

 

Leo (more softly):

I’ve taken psychedelics that shattered every layer of identity. I’ve met beings. I’ve died a thousand deaths. And yet… when I return to ordinary life, the ego reconstructs itself like a virus. It’s relentless.

 

Osho:

Because the ego is not a virus. It is maya. A divine illusion. It is not wrong. It is Leela—the play of existence. The mistake is not in having an ego. The mistake is in believing it’s you.

 

Leo (nodding slowly):

So you’re saying—don’t kill the ego, just stop believing in it?

 

Osho:

Kill it or kiss it—it does not matter. Just see through it. See it like you see a cloud passing in the sky. Do not become the cloud. Remain the sky.

 

Leo (smiling):

And yet, paradoxically, even “remaining the sky” is just more language.

 

Osho (grinning widely):

Now you are getting it. The Tao that can be spoken… is not the eternal Tao. So what do we do?

 

(He picks up a rose from a nearby table, smells it, then says nothing.)

 

 

 

 

🌹 

A silence more eloquent than words follows.

 

 

 

 

Leo (quietly):

Sometimes I wonder if I’m overcomplicating everything. All these maps, models, frameworks…

 

Osho:

Of course you are. That’s your genius. And your trap. Use the sword—but don’t fall in love with it.

 

 

 

 

🪷 

They sit. Not as teacher and student. Not as separate beings. Just… this.

 

 

 

[Inliytened1]

The GPT stuff is nice but I don't think it actually captures the individuals enough. It's fun to look at it guess but too mechanical. 

[Inliytened1]

22 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

What?

And what did he say about how he came to realize the self never existed?  Did he gather this conceptually?  I can bet you he did.

[PurpleTree]

12 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

And what did he say about how he came to realize the self never existed?  Did he gather this conceptually?  I can bet you he did.

So you came in here spreading bad vibes and stuff.

Saying neo advaitans are horrible and fake spirituality of the worst kind and so on, fake prophet yadda yadda.

And you don’t even know anything about these people?

Wtf is that your truth? Your truthfulness as someone who speaks often about truth etc?

23 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

True but do you want delusion or Truth? Ultimately it is Truth. 

If you apologise then maybe i’ll tell you.

 

 

 

[Inliytened1]

24 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

So you came in here spreading bad vibes and stuff.

Saying neo advaitans are horrible and fake spirituality of the worst kind and so on, fake prophet yadda yadda.

And you don’t even know anything about these people?

Wtf is that your truth? Your truthfulness as someone who speaks often about truth etc?

If you apologise then maybe i’ll tell you.

 

 

 

I've seen what people post about him and Jim Newman.  You're not the first.  And I've seen a few Jim Newman videos.  And I've had fans of both post videos here.  I don't need to delve into their content to know they are fake.   But I did give you the benefit of the doubt to tell me more about their content then what is often posted here.  

[Inliytened1]

@PurpleTree you're obviously getting very defensive about Parsons..sorry I struck a nerve.  

[Inliytened1]

 @PurpleTree @VeganAwake is the king of this neo-advaitan crap and he posted it for years long before you were here.  I don't need to study these guys personally because I can easily see from what was posted here.  Go back and read his posts

 

Edited 21 hours ago by Inliytened1

[PurpleTree]

6 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@PurpleTree you're obviously getting very defensive about Parsons..sorry I struck a nerve.  

No i don’t care to change your opinion at all. I just think it’s quite very ignorant and silly. I honestly don’t care what you think about any of them and i’m often joking. But the language you’re using and the ignorance? No bueno

i’m petty

 

 

 

 

[Inliytened1]

Just now, PurpleTree said:

No i don’t care to change your opinion at all. I just think it’s quite very ignorant and silly. I honestly don’t care what you think about any of them and i’m often joking. But the language you’re using and the ignorance? No bueno

i’m petty

@VeganAwake talked about them long before you did here.  i had all i need to know.  But I wanted to know from you since you seemed to get so defensive when I preferred one teacher over another.

[PurpleTree]

2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@VeganAwake talked about them long before you did here.  i had all i need to know.  But I wanted to know from you since you seemed to get so defensive when I preferred one teacher over another.

Bro are you being wilfully ignorant? You said neo advaita is the most fake spirituality. You said all that silly stuff. Worse than christians blala fake gurus. And now you say “just because i prefered one over the other” 🦭 laughable. Your take in spirituality is as bad as your take in politics. If I could i would just put you on ignore. I mean it’s fine no hard feelings.

[Inliytened1]

4 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Bro are you being wilfully ignorant? You said neo advaita is the most fake spirituality. You said all that silly stuff. Worse than christians blala fake gurus. And now you say “just because i prefered one over the other” 🦭 laughable. Your take in spirituality is as bad as your take in politics. If I could i would just put you on ignore. I mean it’s fine no hard feelings.

So you have no bias towards the Parson's perspective vs Nisargadatta?  If so why did you become so defensive when I felt one was awakened and the other was not?  You can lash out at me all you want but that was not a normal response that you gave me.  Rather then reacting with thoughtful opinions or intelligent feedback you just said. OK thanks boss.   But you want to block me.

[PurpleTree]

5 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

So you have no bias towards the Parson's perspective vs Nisargadatta?  If so why did you become so defensive when I felt one was awakened and the other was not?  You can lash out at me all you want but that was not a normal response that you gave me.  Rather then reacting with thoughtful opinions or intelligent feedback you just said. OK thanks boss.   But you want to block me.

I think your language was needlessly inflammatory in the first post and your take ignorant i don’t care to change your opinion. I‘m not going to debate you.

 

I think you’re a decent mod though.

Edited 21 hours ago by PurpleTree

[PurpleTree]

On 2025-08-07 at 0:53 AM, Inliytened1 said:

Tony parsons is not enlightened. Nisargadatta was. Tony is a false prophet.   It's easy to say there is no self but to realize it there must have been one to realize.  These neo-advaitans are the worst kind.  Almost worse than hard Christians.

I mean look at that lol

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, PurpleTree said:

I mean look at that lol

If you posted a Chat GPT dailogue between a christian and the Buddah i would have said the same.  I have strong opinions about this because i don't want to see anyone deceived.  So yes I have strong opinions.  But it doesn't mean you have to get all bent out of shape.   I want to hear your opinions too.