Can a psychedelic trip reveal Truth in a non-communicational instant ?

[Hojo]

@Someone here It did happen instantaneously tho. Like one second you perceive the world one way and the next you perceive it in a completely different way. Its like an involuntary perceptual shift on how the world looks to you.

Edited Wednesday at 07:33 PM by Hojo

[UnbornTao]

16 hours ago, Someone here said:

My dude my point is that "what's true" cannot be grasped because of it's very nature and infinitude and trickery and maya just as leo said above .

I can't grasp truth through watching Leo's videos 24/7 or by doing 200000 hrs of contemplating or meditation..

I wonder is a psychedelic awakening immune to this ? Because my guess is that no it's not .

Just stop calling it psychedelic awakening - it muddies the waters.

What's absolutely true about existence is absolutely true of existence. Wouldn't you agree?

The short version is: you are existence. So there's no reason why existence couldn't become conscious of itself. That idea points to a real possibility. But I get where you're coming from.

To address your point more directly: it sounds like you're expecting something to happen to you - some event, state, or experience. But that belongs to the relative realm. You keep thinking it is not possible, in part because you assume that it is something relative - huge, special, "infinite", out of bounds - like "perceiving the entirety of space" or some such. It is exactly you in the very place you are now. What is that?

Whenever we attempt a direct consciousness of existence, by definition, we don't know what's on the “other side,” so to speak. We use the mind, intellect, feeling, perception, brute force, emotion - all of it - in search of truth. But eventually, we hit a wall. You try every method and means available, and still no breakthrough seems to be forthcoming. Up to this point, you've failed to grasp what's true.

And it's precisely in this place - the place of failure, of uncertainty - that your deepest and most powerful contemplations can begin. Just hold that it's possible, and stay open. You really, deeply don't know. And that's true for everyone. Have that as an actual experience instead of looking for an intellectually graspable 'thing' or answer that will satisfy you.

So, it's either possible or it's not. If it's not, we might as well go have lunch and forget about the whole thing. But history tells us that there have been seemingly sincere individuals who claimed to have accessed some kind of direct knowledge or consciousness of the nature of reality. If it's been done by one of us, it means it is possible for the rest of us too. What's needed is, essentially, openness, questioning, and intent - now. And you repeat that over and over again until you break through.

Edited Thursday at 10:51 AM by UnbornTao

[ZenSwift]

On 21/07/2025 at 9:26 AM, Someone here said:

@Leo Gura btw Leo sometimes (a lot of times ) you contradict yourself in your videos . Like if we take the "Life is a dream " video ..you said God is dreaming your life and simultaneously dreaming it's being Napoleon and in "radical implications of Oneness " video you said you are going to experience everything there is to experience under the sun ..but in the solipsism video "nothing exists except your visual field and your bubble of consciousness right now and there are no parallel lives or past lives or future lives .and in the "what is Actuality?" Video you said look at your hand that's the truth and the rest is fantasy land. 

✅ Life is a dream. 

✅ Nothing exists except your visual field and your bubble of consciousness right now and there are no parallel lives or past lives or future lives

✅ You are going to experience everything because you are infinity dreaming up scenarios, infinitely. So yes, by logical conclusion, you will experience all scenarios. Even the first person perspective of all movie characters you've ever seen. 

✅ Your hand is Actuality. The rest is fantasy

 

 

As fucked as it may sound, all these facets dovetail together very well. And it's very satisfying to become conscious of. 

[Someone here]

On 31/07/2025 at 3:13 AM, UnbornTao said:

Just stop calling it psychedelic awakening - it muddies the waters.

What's absolutely true about existence is absolutely true of existence. Wouldn't you agree?

The short version is: you are existence. So there's no reason why existence couldn't become conscious of itself. That idea points to a real possibility. But I get where you're coming from.

To address your point more directly: it sounds like you're expecting something to happen to you - some event, state, or experience. But that belongs to the relative realm. You keep thinking it is not possible, in part because you assume that it is something relative - huge, special, "infinite", out of bounds - like "perceiving the entirety of space" or some such. It is exactly you in the very place you are now. What is that?

Whenever we attempt a direct consciousness of existence, by definition, we don't know what's on the “other side,” so to speak. We use the mind, intellect, feeling, perception, brute force, emotion - all of it - in search of truth. But eventually, we hit a wall. You try every method and means available, and still no breakthrough seems to be forthcoming. Up to this point, you've failed to grasp what's true.

And it's precisely in this place - the place of failure, of uncertainty - that your deepest and most powerful contemplations can begin. Just hold that it's possible, and stay open. You really, deeply don't know. And that's true for everyone. Have that as an actual experience instead of looking for an intellectually graspable 'thing' or answer that will satisfy you.

So, it's either possible or it's not. If it's not, we might as well go have lunch and forget about the whole thing. But history tells us that there have been seemingly sincere individuals who claimed to have accessed some kind of direct knowledge or consciousness of the nature of reality. If it's been done by one of us, it means it is possible for the rest of us too. What's needed is, essentially, openness, questioning, and intent - now. And you repeat that over and over again until you break through.

Pure gold man. Thanks for nudging me to the right direction.

On 31/07/2025 at 8:58 AM, ZenSwift said:

✅ Life is a dream. 

✅ Nothing exists except your visual field and your bubble of consciousness right now and there are no parallel lives or past lives or future lives

✅ You are going to experience everything because you are infinity dreaming up scenarios, infinitely. So yes, by logical conclusion, you will experience all scenarios. Even the first person perspective of all movie characters you've ever seen. 

✅ Your hand is Actuality. The rest is fantasy

 

 

As fucked as it may sound, all these facets dovetail together very well. And it's very satisfying to become conscious of. 

Leo didn't answer..maybe you make an attempt ..if its all relative and perspectival then why ..for example..is idealism more true than materialism? Absolutely speaking or relatively speaking ?

[UnbornTao]

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

Pure gold man. Thanks for nudging me to the right direction.

Anytime.