Reason Why Enlightenment is Difficult for you and if happened what is waiting

[James123]

The person who wants to be enligtened must let go all his/her attachments, survival, family, death, fear, expectations, good or bad, ideas, beliefs, thoughts etc...

After all these surrendered, it comes to mind, body and last breath, when those are surrendered you die. Then there is no experience, experiencer, realization, you, me, god, infinite etc... disseappears. Just, nothing is there or blank or complete disseappearing, complete Being (That's what You really are is). Therefore, completely forgetting everything as before so called birth. 

After that when a sense or thought appears realization happens that what is the duality about, which are All birth, god, infinite, body, life story, mind or death is just a attachment with thoughts. Your entire life story, universe, god etc... is happening within the thoughts.

Meanwhile, The thoughts are empty, it has no meaning whatsoever. you are attached to it, therefore it seems like it has meaning. Like a mirror, in front of the mirror you see yourself, however, back of the mirror there is no one there. Which means, if you are attach to thoughts there is a you and meaning, and there is thoughts. However, if not attached to it, there is no you, no meaning nor thoughts. 

After this realization, freeing from all suffering, realization that Now / Moment is the home / Source / Being, which is the Real self. Therefore,  being the moment is inevitable. There is no more sense of self, and past or future is vanished.

However, dream still continues. Only, the awakening or awareness take place. Therefore, no more attachment to the body or mind. Speaking through the body, but not attach to it, and mind is quite.

Therefore, realization happens that psychical death is the end of all suffering, pleasure, desire, expectations etc... Just, nothing or blank or complete disseappearing, just Being.

After that, ease, moment, therefore being in love or being love is inevitable. The Source / Moment only gives / offers Love, nothing else. 

The purpose of creation is only burning with Love, being the love and being in love within right this very Moment.

Body is limited and has limited time. Therefore, Sooner or later everything will end, let go the self and be the Love before it's too late. Being love or being in love for a second is infinite times more valuable than to live infinite life time with the self.

Much Love.

 

[Breakingthewall]

Break yourself into a thousand pieces so the sun can pass through you, says Rumi.

Where is the sun in your enlightenment?

[Breakingthewall]

33 minutes ago, James123 said:

The purpose of creation is only burning with Love, being the love and being in love within right this very Moment.

Why you say that if before you said that any thought is meaningless? All except this one?

 

[Princess Arabia]

Wasn't it you just had a thread saying God Realization is an illusion. My my, how fast we change our beliefs. 

[Princess Arabia]

You have a lot of threads going at once. You're going through a phase and will be gone for a while pretty soon, happens every time. Probably doing psychedelics and getting insights upon insights. Much love. 

[James123]

11 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Break yourself into a thousand pieces so the sun can pass through you, says Rumi.

Where is the sun in your enlightenment?

Love is the sun.

8 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Why you say that if before you said that any thought is meaningless? All except this one?

 

Love is not a thought, it is the gift of present moment.

7 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Wasn't it you just had a thread saying God Realization is an illusion. My my, how fast we change our beliefs. 

Where is the god in the thread?

4 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

You have a lot of threads going at once. You're going through a phase and will be gone for a while pretty soon, happens every time. Probably doing psychedelics and getting insights upon insights. Much love. 

Not at all. No psychedelics involved, just the oxygen 😊 

[Princess Arabia]

6 minutes ago, James123 said:

Where is the god in the thread?

You're right, nothing mentioned about God realization. Thanks for the correction. 

[Breakingthewall]

9 minutes ago, James123 said:

Love is not a thought, it is the gift of present moment.

You said that the purpose of the creation is burning in love. Then first there is a creation, so where is the creator? And he does it with a defined purpose: burning in love. What is love? What was before of your so called birth? 

Edited 17 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

You said that the purpose of the creation is burning in love. Then first there is a creation, so where is the creator? And he does it with a defined purpose: burning in love. What is love? What was before of your so called birth? 

Take your time with James, please. Show some love. He's on a roll, don't mess his groove up. Hehe.

[Breakingthewall]

5 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Take your time with James, please. Show some love. He's on a roll, don't mess his groove up. Hehe.

I know, I can't avoid, I'm an unbearable smartass 😅

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

I know, I can't avoid, I'm an unbearable smartass 😅

I love it. Brings a lot of meat to the forum.

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

I love it. Brings a lot of meat to the forum.

Great to know. This topic is too fascinating, nothing else is even close. 

[SOUL]

1 hour ago, James123 said:

The person who wants to be enligtened must

If you imagine 'must' then 'must' it is for you but don't project your 'must' on some imagined others, let go of the musty....or not, you can stay musty.

Edited 16 hours ago by SOUL

[James123]

6 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

You said that the purpose of the creation is burning in love. Then first there is a creation, so where is the creator? And he does it with a defined purpose: burning in love. What is love? What was before of your so called birth? 

We are always Being. Reason of creation is only to feel Love or be love. If it was enlightenment, there would be never so called birth.

There is no creator, creation itself is it which is You/Present moment/Being. Isn't it amazing? 🤩 All is within of within. 

You can not know the path, you have to walk it. 

About Love, you can't understand it, mind is not capable of it, because there is no place for you. If you never taste an apple, no one can explain you the taste of apple.

18 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Take your time with James, please. Show some love. He's on a roll, don't mess his groove up. Hehe.

James is just the temporary reflection of us. Our meeting point. Isn't it beautiful? ❤️ 

[Breakingthewall]

13 minutes ago, James123 said:

About Love, you can't understand it, mind is not capable of it, because there is no place for you. If you never taste an apple, no one can explain you the taste of apple.

Sure But if I've already tried the apple, then I can talk about it. That's what talking is all about: expressing your experience

13 minutes ago, James123 said:

There is no creator, creation itself is it which is You/Present moment/Being. Isn't it amazing? 🤩 All is within of within. 

If there is no creator, what appears is not a creation. But it's always a creator, a cause of everything that appears. You can follow the causes without end, then the reality is creating itself in it's infinite flow. 

13 minutes ago, James123 said:

Reason of creation is only to feel Love or be love.

How could be a reason for the creation? It just is because there are no limits, it can't not be, would be limited. That about the reason is just a opinion that you said. 

If you said: anything that appears is made of love, then could be possible, or at least we could talk about why or how it's love, but that about the reason is impossible. 

The last: what is love? Is love something? Like love someone? Love the life? What exactly means love? Maybe love means existing? Then it's not that existence is love, it's that love is existence. Existence is existence, not anything else. Don't you see the point? It's essential 

You said that concepts are nothing, but they are important because some concepts are a door that can be open or closed

Edited 16 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[James123]

4 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Sure But if I've already tried the apple, then I can talk about it. That's what talking is all about: expressing your experience

If there is no creator, what appears is not a creation. But it's always a creator, a cause of everything that appears. You can follow the causes without end, then the reality is creating itself in it's infinite flow. 

How could be a reason for the creation? It just is because there are no limits, it can't not be, would be limited. That about the reason is just a opinion that you said. 

If you said: anything that appears is made of love, then could be possible, or at least we could talk about why or how it's love, but that about the reason is impossible. 

The last: what is love? Is love something? Like love someone? Love the life? What exactly means love? Maybe love means existing? Then it's not that existence is love, it's that love is existence. Existence is existence, not anything else. Don't you see the point? It's essential 

You said that concepts are nothing, but they are important because some concepts are a door that can be open or closed

If logic works, anyone can comprehend it. Leave the logic behind. You can't know, you have to walk. 

Love is gift to You from You, just to see how beautiful, amazing You are.

[James123]

12 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

If there is no creator, what appears is not a creation. But it's always a creator, a cause of everything that appears. You can follow the causes without end, then the reality is creating itself in it's infinite flow. 

There is nothing separated. All is one, one is all.

[Breakingthewall]

4 minutes ago, James123 said:

If logic works, anyone can comprehend it. Leave the logic behind. You can't know, you have to walk. 

Love is gift to You from You, just to see how beautiful, amazing You are.

How is love for example when the guerrillas cut your arms with a knife? Then you have no arms for the rest of your life and you say that's love?

[James123]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

How is love for example when the guerrillas cut your arms with a knife? Then you have no arms for the rest of your life and you say that's love?

Only arms? Love burns "your" every molecules till not even ash left from "you".

Much love to you brother. 

[Carl-Richard]

2 hours ago, James123 said:

The person who wants to be enligtened must let go all his/her attachments, survival, family, death, fear, expectations, good or bad, ideas, beliefs, thoughts etc...

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