Do Things Happen For a Reason or Not?

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, gettoefl said:

Yes you're right. Indeed you have the choice of murder or miracles. What's your choice? Here is rubbish compared to what else is available that you senses were designed to hide from you. But there is a way as that passage describes. There is another way. 

My choice is the only choice that's not madness, the real openess. First forget absolutely all the ideas. Second, direct and deep observation of myself in meditation and psychedelics, third, staring my fear and my attachment without any decorations, 4, stare directly to death and the absolute nihilism of the reality, the absolute void of everything, as long as I can. Intuit that there is something else to see. And finally, let my structure get open, see the absolute that everything is, my real nature, the absolute depth. Then perceive it's reality, it's flow, everywhere, be one with it and enjoy life realizing the beauty and the joy of existing 

[gettoefl]

13 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

My choice is the only choice that's not madness, the real openess. First forget absolutely all the ideas. Second, direct and deep observation of myself in meditation and psychedelics, third, staring my fear and my attachment without any decorations, 4, stare directly to death and the absolute nihilism of the reality, the absolute void of everything, as long as I can. Intuit that there is something else to see. And finally, let my structure get open, see the absolute that everything is, my real nature, the absolute depth. Then perceive it's reality, it's flow, everywhere, be one with it and enjoy life realizing the beauty and the joy of existing 

Good. So you seem to infer that the absolute is more preferred, more powerful, more perfect that this shabby relative universe where starved and rabid parasites come to live and die. What I am pointing towards here is the work to shift between the one and the other. What you are doing does resonate with me and I think our approaches are reconcilable. Truth is truth. I am the whole not just a part of it.

Edited July 15 by gettoefl

[Schizophonia]

Yes, otherwise there would be no form.

If there is obviously one form (rather than another) there is a reason.

[Sugarcoat]

Infinity just cannot stop itself from manifesting as infinite medieval torture chambers and chronic disease im sorry man that’s the cold truth

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, gettoefl said:

Truth is truth. I am the whole not just a part of it.

Yes I just argue the approach. it's right now, in the middle of the shit. Then the point is finding the way now, not imagining another better circumstances. The only way is really empty the mind for ideas bout what is and focus in the ideas of what closes, to open yourself. The path is blind, you don't know what you are going to find, then better don't think about it , maybe it's nothing, maybe everyone is wrong when they talk about it, it's a possibility.