Truth = True

[Breakingthewall]

22 minutes ago, Davino said:

Yes, I know what you mean.

But for me there was a: Oh Shit moment, I'm the Absolute and there's nothing I can do about it.

I'm doomed to be the greatest ever Metaphysical Infinite Awake Love Singularity

Yes sure, but I guess that you understand that who has that feeling is the human structure. I had a lot of horrible feelings about openenss, 5 meo was a mental torture of a level that only because I have a big masochist component i felt more and more attracted until it was an obsession. Then I started to be in another frequency, not with 5 meo, all time, little by little, until you start purifying yourself about those attachments and you can reach a clean openess at least during some moments almost every day. This is a work that doesn't stop, every second more cleaning, more aligning 

Edited Sunday at 09:28 PM by Breakingthewall

[Ishanga]

19 minutes ago, James123 said:

If people can say "I love you" without any expectation, and act that way, ego inevitably vanishes. 

There is no need for seminar, retreats, psychedelics, reading, understanding etc...

Just to say "I love you" something or someone without any expectations from the deepest place of the heart.

The need for seminars, retreats and practices is simply to allow the Love to flow out of You! The Love is always there, as is the Hate, and any other Emotion or Feeling, but Hate destroys Life, Love Enhances it, so the choice has to be made within the Individual what they want to Experience and Exude, and if it is not a natural flow of Love coming out then there is usually something blocking this natural flow, the practices and such remove the blockages and allow nature to take its course!

[Breakingthewall]

11 minutes ago, Davino said:

The cognitive disonance you must have to deny ego self may even be pathological. Beware this could cause you psychological and social damage. Scientific research is full of people that lost their mind with this approach. It's clear you haven't transcended the mind nor the ego, and you are just in self-denial phase, which may create self-hate, self-doubt, self-criticism, self-fragmentation...

Yet, will you seriously contemplate this? No, you will again deny any of this occuring. Hence you trap yourself and nobody can help you! See what you have done to yourself

That is the description of neo advaita spirituality. And this is the mainstream spirituality nowadays . Good insight about its dangers and it's essence 

Edited Sunday at 09:32 PM by Breakingthewall

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, Davino said:

I understand what you're trying to say and I've contemplated it for long.

I may be wrong.

Yet that's my position. All can happen in Infinity, that's what makes it Infinite, paradox, contradiction, everything, nothing...

Limitlessness is the limit so to speak. Infinity is the finity. That's the strange loop.

The way i see it is it, as Infinity always does..it finds a way to do it, via illusion.  Hence, unconsciousness.  We think it "exists" right? 

[James123]

7 minutes ago, Davino said:

It's clear you haven't transcended the mind nor the ego,

you can not transcend the mind or the ego, because it is you/beliefs/ideas/experiences/attachments. it can only dies.

10 minutes ago, Davino said:

Yet, will you seriously contemplate this?

Taking an action or trying to surrendering can never be done by me or you.

Effortlessness is the key.

11 minutes ago, Davino said:

you are just in self-denial phase, which may create self-hate, self-doubt, self-criticism, self-fragmentation...

I am the Moment.

[Davino]

7 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Yes sure, but I guess that you understand that who has that feeling is the human structure.

Yes, that evidently was the human reaction to it. 

8 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Then I started to be in another frequency, not with 5 meo, all time, little by little, until you start purifying yourself about those attachments and you can reach a clean openess at least during some moments almost every day. This is a work that doesn't stop, every second more cleaning, more aligning 

That's how it went for me as well to integrate that.

[Davino]

6 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

The way i see it is it, as Infinity always does..it finds a way to do it, via illusion.  Hence, unconsciousness.  We think it "exists" right? 

I respect your position. I leave the door open for Infinity to mindfuck me in that way. For the moment I've discovered the ever-present nature of Reality that morphs into all Infinity and is tautologicallly obliged to be itself because it's the only thing that exists. 

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, Davino said:

I respect your position. I leave the door open for Infinity to mindfuck me in that way. For the moment I've discovered the ever-present nature of Reality that morphs into all Infinity and is tautologicallly obliged to be itself because it's the only thing that exists. 

The biggest mindfuck is that it's you! There isn't some secret somewhere about it.  Yet we want to make it "other".  It is self!

[Davino]

7 minutes ago, James123 said:

you can not transcend the mind or the ego, because it is you/beliefs/ideas/experiences/attachments. it can only dies.

As the zen master say: You have burnt the boat before crossing the river.

Cross the river, then leave the boat, no use, true. Yet you cannot do it before.

It's only after you transcend ego that it is seen as always already an illusion, but you cannot convince yourself otherwise before the true awakening happens.

So the great irony is that you are deluding yourself with something that is true. How twisted!

The trap is that your claim is a priori when it can only be done a posteriori.

9 minutes ago, James123 said:

Taking an action or trying to surrendering can never be done by me or you.

Effortlessness is the key.

No serious nonduality teacher or meditation expert would buy you that.

The ones that say it are at a stage where they have done two decades of grinding sadhana to say just surrender. Which is ridiculous to give that advice to beginners, why? Because you can only be in natural spontaneous surrender after the awakening and realizing selflessness.

I myself am perfectly effortless and awake after a medition and psychedelic intensive. Yet I do not fall into delusion before doing it saying oh if I just sit efortlessly in my couch I'll be enlightened and there's nothing my "I" can do.

This is the position you're holding really. A true position that you cannot claim because you aren't conscious enough. You've just borrowed a higher truth than what you have awakened or embodied. Then when somebody points it out you hide behind this higher truth and feel so good about yourself. It's true! Of course, I do know but do the work, fucking awaken to what is beyond ego. It's the biggest blessing

[Ishanga]

13 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

That is the description of neo advaita spirituality. And this is the mainstream spirituality nowadays . Good insight about its dangers and it's essence 

This is true, this idea that Nothing has to be done, Nothing is happening, well can You do it is the real question, can You do nothing, no thinking, no believing, no egoism and so forth, most cannot because they don't even know what is happening within themselves, never mind stopping  it..

Lots is happening, lots is going on, lots of action is taking place, its just in the manner of how conscious are  you of these actions, within Yourself especially..

Its super funny seeing ppl post such comments saying nothing is happening and nothing has ever happen when they have 10,000+post to prove otherwise!!!

[Davino]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

The biggest mindfuck is that it's you! There isn't some secret somewhere about it.  Yet we want to make it "other".  It is self!

Instant Samadhi

Thanks for the reminder

[James123]

19 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

The need for seminars, retreats and practices is simply to allow the Love to flow out of You! The Love is always there, as is the Hate, and any other Emotion or Feeling, but Hate destroys Life, Love Enhances it, so the choice has to be made within the Individual what they want to Experience and Exude, and if it is not a natural flow of Love coming out then there is usually something blocking this natural flow, the practices and such remove the blockages and allow nature to take its course!

Love is accepting everything and anything the way that they are. Self can not stand to it.

Hate is wanting everything and anything to be in your/self way.

Imo, life is the biggest seminar for the self.

However, when self can not stand to Love, welcome to heaven 😊 

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, Davino said:

Instant Samadhi

Thanks for the reminder

Love you 😍 

Instant.

Edited Sunday at 09:51 PM by Inliytened1

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, Ishanga said:

This is true, this idea that Nothing has to be done, Nothing is happening, well can You do it is the real question, can You do nothing, no thinking, no believing, no egoism and so forth, most cannot because they don't even know what is happening within themselves, never mind stopping  it..

Lots is happening, lots is going on, lots of action is taking place, its just in the manner of how conscious are  you of these actions, within Yourself especially..

Its super funny seeing ppl post such comments saying nothing is happening and nothing has ever happen when they have 10,000+post to prove otherwise!!!

Neo-Advaita philosophy is false; it relies on a dualistic foundation to claim nonduality. Silence is true; the mind, body, psychological structure, and world are false, maya. Therefore, I am non-dual by pretending that what I deny as "false" doesn't exist, when obviously exist, then I categorize it as "illusory". Seems like making an effort to have a mental disease 

[James123]

6 minutes ago, Davino said:

As the zen master say: You have burnt the boat before crossing the river.

Cross the river, then leave the boat, no use, true. Yet you cannot do it before.

It's only after you transcend ego that it is seen as always already an illusion, but you cannot convince yourself otherwise before the true awakening happens.

So the great irony is that you are deluding yourself with something that is true. How twisted!

The trap is that your claim is a priori when it can only be done a posteriori.

No serious nonduality teacher or meditation expert would buy you that.

The ones that say it are at a stage where they have done two decades of grinding sadhana to say just surrender. Which is ridiculous to give that advice to beginners, why? Because you can only be in natural spontaneous surrender after the awakening and realizing selflessness.

I myself am perfectly effortless and awake after a medition and psychedelic intensive. Yet I do not fall into delusion before doing it saying oh if I just sit efortlessly in my couch I'll be enlightened and there's nothing my "I" can do.

This is the position you're holding really. A true position that you cannot claim because you aren't conscious enough. You've just borrowed a higher truth than what you have awakened or embodied. Then when somebody points it out you hide behind this higher truth and feel so good about yourself. It's true! Of course, I do know but do the work, fucking awaken to what is beyond ego. It's the biggest blessing

Ego is the universe or your God or you as god or your infinity my friend. Unfortunately, you have to let them go, I know it feels so good but you or I have only Nothing as before so called birth. That's what We really are.

We can only realize that We are free, when we lose everything including that infinity 😊 

I love you anyway. 😊 

[Davino]

@James123 I love you too. Really I do

[James123]

2 minutes ago, Davino said:

@James123 I love you too. Really I do

❤️ ❤️ ❤️ 

[ExploringReality]

@Inliytened1

I see. Your a good guy for sure 

Edited Monday at 12:07 AM by ExploringReality