Meditation as the unwinding of energy

[Carl-Richard]

7 minutes ago, aurum said:

Yes, but also what are you? What is "me" made out of?

The ontology question is absolutely deep and extremely serious. Realization of the ontological nature of reality should leave a person shell-shocked, if they haven't realized that already.

Simple is not easy as they say.

[Oppositionless]

I was wondering why sometimes during my retreat I would spontaneously have uncontrollable, full-body shakes . Immediately preceding an experience I think was possibly the arising and passing away. Interesting, thank you.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

12 hours ago, theleelajoker said:

+ 1 for body, movement, breath 

I don't do contemplation + self-inquiry, this keeps me from action. Seems like a detour for me.

Action, interaction= key for me for integration and evolving further 

What is this interaction meditation practice? I have not come across it. Maybe I know if it under another name....

Contemplation/self enquiry is needed to integrate the experience of elevated consciousness/awakening/enlightenment if you want to be able to use the experience to raise your baseline consciousness while in the waking reality. Without it, it is just an experience had. Like taking a bunch of psychedelics, tripping your balls off and then coming back to reality. Most people would look at that as 'oh yeah weird experience' and take nothing away from it. 

You have to realise what you are doing that facilitated the experience - or more precisely - what you are suddenly not doing. In waking life, you are constantly getting in your way. Your thoughts do this. Contemplation and self-enquiry aims to reveal what you are doing and the effects it has on your consciousness. How your ego - your self, prevents you from being conscious.

The contemplation assists with the fish finally realising it is in the water, after the experience of jumping above the waves.

[theleelajoker]

7 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

What is this interaction meditation practice? I have not come across it. Maybe I know if it under another name....

@Breakingthewallalways talks about openness. So I aim at having this openness in any interaction. Meaning truly listening, being aware of the other without projection (without thoughts of he she is saying/doing that because ..."), expressing my self authentically, being as honest as possible, and being aware of feelings and my body as best as I can, having no fear of rejection, listing to my intuition. More openness, less resistance, less fear --> integration of different (higher) state of consciousness. The way information is processed becomes very different.

 

7 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

.You have to realise what you are doing that facilitated the experience - or more precisely - what you are suddenly not doing. In waking life, you are constantly getting in your way. Your thoughts do this. Contemplation and self-enquiry aims to reveal what you are doing and the effects it has on your consciousness. How your ego - your self, prevents you from being conscious.

 

Can you give a concrete example how thoughts come/ came into your way?

And if you want no thoughts, we should stop being in this forum right? Every word I read, I am thinking this word in my head creating more thinking.

7 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

The contemplation assists with the fish finally realising it is in the water, after the experience of jumping above the waves.

Interaction as described above has the same "fish in the water" efffect for me.