Double slit and the eyes.

[Hojo]

Double slit says  when something isn't being observed by the one observer that it stops being itself and desolidifies into a blob of colour or turns into nothing. When I am not looking at something directly but it is still in my pov its not solid and its a blur of colour.

Like if I focus on something it gains solid form and shape and I can know what it is, but I look away and its still at the side of my eye visible but now its not solid or shaped and I can't tell what it is i need to look at it to see.

Science is saying thats whats happening in reality not a limitation of my eyeballs?

If its true its logical to follow that when you stop looking at something it completely desolidies and turns into the deep sleep space behind your head.

This made me think about black holes and how when the buddha says let's eat its him realizing he's a black hole eating light.

Edited June 18 by Hojo

[Keryo Koffa]

You just gotta go liminal at the borders between psychic reality and physicality make belief.
And where Qua(nt/li)um Superposition / me² collapses, reforms, transforms, individuates.
Ultimately, reality coexists unified across percepts and there are means of state transition.

Edited June 18 by Keryo Koffa

[Breakingthewall]

3 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

You just gotta go liminal at the borders between psychic reality and physicality make belief.
And where Qua(nt/li)um Superposition / me² collapses, reforms, transforms, individuates.
Ultimately, reality coexists unified across percepts and there are means of state transition.

Any perception is perception of change, and any change is made up of infinite changes, reality is infinitely deep and change never ceases because "never" is the absence of change 

[Keryo Koffa]

14 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Any perception is perception of change, and any change is made up of infinite changes, reality is infinitely deep and change never ceases because "never" is the absence of change 

Quote

There is no static God, when you say this is God, then God is already something else.
All portion of All That Is are constantly changing, infolding and unfolding.
All That Is seeking to know itself constantly creates new versions of itself,
for this seeking itself is a creative activity and the core of all creation.

Entities being action always shift and change,
there is nothing arbitrary about their boundaries.

As atoms have mobility, so do psychological structures,
consciousness seeking to know itself therefore knows you.
You as a consciousness seek to know yourself and become
aware of yourself as a distinct individual portion of All That Is.

Edited June 18 by Keryo Koffa

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Hojo said:

When I am not looking at something directly but it is still in my pov its not solid and its a blur of colour.

Yeah, you might have something here. I never really looked at it that way, but you gave me something to think about. When looking at something peripherally, it tends to be a bit blurry or even looking at an object at a far distance. That may mean that the further away you are and when the object isn't visible anymore, it really isn't there at all, not just that you can't see it. Maybe nothing is really there, close or far but there's a light that shines from the body that illuminates things into being. I've heard this theory before but never viewed it from this perspective.

[Breakingthewall]

6 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Yeah, you might have something here. I never really looked at it that way, but you gave me something to think about. When looking at something peripherally, it tends to be a bit blurry or even looking at an object at a far distance. That may mean that the further away you are and when the object isn't visible anymore, it really isn't there at all, not just that you can't see it. Maybe nothing is really there, close or far but there's a light that shines from the body that illuminates things into being. I've heard this theory before but never viewed it from this perspective.

10 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

 

Just perceive the movement that is happening, all the structures that creates you flowing in perfect synchrony. It's the same sight, thought, hearing, feeling, touching, or anything that happens. Everything is alive, without bottom. 

[Hojo]

@Princess Arabia This has serious implications beyond just what science is having us think.

This means when the sun goes down over the horizon it stops being solid or stops existing entirely and the world goes dark and nothing exists except internal qualia. When the sun comes up it starts existing and you can see stuff. The implications of this is that the light of the world is literally coming from your point of view, light is not shining in, but out of the eyes of your human, and you are the sun/light manipulating itself with your focus.

Like the sun going over the horizon the sun dissapears and that makes you dissapear too. All thats left is qualia from an unknown source in nothing. The animals on the planet harness the energy of themselves the light/sun to continue existing until they come back.

Edited June 18 by Hojo

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

Just perceive the movement that is happening, all the structures that creates you flowing in perfect synchrony. It's the same sight, thought, hearing, feeling, touching, or anything that happens. Everything is alive, without bottom. 

You know what I was thinking today, how can someone else see or hear the same thing you see or hear with different eyes and ears. For example, we're walking together and the man in front sneezes, I hear it and you hear it but we have different ears. Same for seeing and any other sense. It was just something I was pondering. Are we really seeing or hearing individually......that's the question.

[Princess Arabia]

4 minutes ago, Hojo said:

and that makes you dissapear too.

I'm not understanding this part. You're saying when the sun disappears, I disappear too, how's that. Do you mean the me 'inside the body' and just the body is left or that the body disappears?

[Hojo]

@Princess ArabiaI was thinking that everything is one so your lips and my lips are in 1 category, brains as a whole are in a category, fingers as a whole, then people as a whole are in a category. The brain of a snake is a reptile brain the same reptile brain in my head. Hindu say if you kill a snake you get cursed with fear cause the snakes are Gods. The reptile brain is in a human so the snake dies and just goes into your reptile brain and scares you.

[Princess Arabia]

12 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Princess ArabiaI was thinking that everything is one so your lips and my lips are in 1 category, brains as a whole are in a category, fingers as a whole, then people as a whole are in a category. The brain of a snake is a reptile brain the same reptile brain in my head. Hindu say if you kill a snake you get cursed with fear cause the snakes are Gods. The reptile brain is in a human so the snake dies and just goes into your reptile brain and scares you.

Ok

[Hojo]

@Princess ArabiaThe entire body dissapears like when you stop looking at someone their physical form disintegrates slowly, from this theory. You are the sun looking at its reflection the field between you and the sun. When the sun goes away its revealed that your body has no physical form from your POV. Since this theory says your Point of view is solidifying objects into reality that means the sun goes down it desolidifies into nothing and your physical body does the same thing. Whats left is a void and qualia. If the sun never came back what would happen is you just experience qualia until it slowly faded too and you would become nothing.

A question then to ponder is what is this qualia without the sun, and without concepts into what it might be, via the suns light.

Just random feelings? Or the suns qualia?

Edited June 19 by Hojo

[Breakingthewall]

26 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

You know what I was thinking today, how can someone else see or hear the same thing you see or hear with different eyes and ears. For example, we're walking together and the man in front sneezes, I hear it and you hear it but we have different ears. Same for seeing and any other sense. It was just something I was pondering. Are we really seeing or hearing individually......that's the question.

Seems so, call it illusion or anything makes no sense, same than thinking that everything is one. Everything is, that is. 

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

Seems so, call it illusion or anything makes no sense, same than thinking that everything is one. Everything is, that is. 

If everything is, then saying everything is one, is.

[Breakingthewall]

14 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

If everything is, then saying everything is one, is.

One is the same than many, then why saying one? Excludes many, seems that limits the mind. But yes, you could say that "is" is equal to "one"

Edited June 19 by Breakingthewall

[Hojo]

The fact that your body desolidifies when the sun does is showing us that our bodies are sunlight with an underlying qualia. Physical reality having a form is not what we are, we are not our forms proven by the double slits above our noses.

Edited June 19 by Hojo

[Princess Arabia]

11 minutes ago, Hojo said:

The fact that your body desolidifies when the sun does is showing us that our bodies are sunlight with an underlying qualia. Physical reality having a form is not what we are we are not our forms proven by the double slits above our noses.

I'm just taking in what you're saying. I really have no opinions on it either way. I would say the sun isn't really there or it is there and I'm not. Either way I can't say for sure. When I say I'm not, I mean me as a human seeing things. I'm speaking from a human perspective here and on a subject/object level so this is just perception on that level happening. If I don't intervene then there's more of a flow of just automatic writing happening and no thinking; just thoughts arising and being written; different than thinking.

Edited June 19 by Princess Arabia

[Hojo]

@Princess Arabia Yes the sun isn't there its not the permanent of reality. It comes we see ourselves and get energy, and then it goes and our bodies dissapear but there is something else there because the sun is just an object like other people. You dont dissapear when you look away from the person and you dont dissapear when the sun goes over the horizon.

So we can say that the sun is responsible for subject object interaction, without the sun the subject object relation ceases to exist and it turns into a purely subjective experience. If someone is talking to you , you cant see their body you cant make up that its coming from a different body in your mind. Like a thought.

When the sun dissapears all form ceases and there is something else there thats not the sun and its not any single part of your body or in your body. Here is why

The sun creates and solidifies form proven from the double slit. Your body is there the sun goes, the form of your body desolidifies. There nothing there. 

Now redo the scenario but take your skin off your body, now its muscles and ligaments. The sun goes away the muscles and ligaments literally desolify from reality they have no form they are either waves of colour or nothing-no form. Now you are just bones re do it. Your bones will desolify from reality when the sun goes over the horizon. That means there isnt any of that stuff you think you are in, you are not in a solid body when there is no light.

Edited June 19 by Hojo

[Natasha Tori Maru]

We aren't really form.

We are made of atoms.

What's in an atom - 99.999999999% nothing. A tiny amount of matter in neutrons and protons.

The bulk of the rest? Electrons. Charge. Energy is actually the bulk of YOU.

The reason you cannot put your hand through a lead wall is not because of matter, it is because of electromagnetic repulsion.

Now think of how you interact with the environment - maybe this is a good way to frame it as a thought exercise? 

But this is hitting the glass ceiling of science...

 

 

[Princess Arabia]

9 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Princess Arabia Yes the sun isn't there its not the permanent of reality. It comes we see ourselves and get energy, and then it goes and our bodies dissapear but there is something else there because the sun is just an object like other people. You dont dissapear when you look away from the person and you dont dissapear when the sun goes over the horizon.

So we can say that the sun is responsible for subject object interaction, without the sun the subject object relation ceases to exist and it turns into a purely subjective experience. If someone is talking to you , you cant see their body you cant make up that its coming from a different body in your mind. Like a thought.

When the sun dissapears all form ceases and there is something else there thats not the sun and its not any single part of your body or in your body. Here is why

The sun creates and solidifies form proven from the double slit. Your body is there the sun goes, the form of your body desolidifies. There nothing there. 

Now redo the scenario but take your skin off your body, now its muscles and ligaments. The sun goes away the muscles and ligaments literally desolify from reality they have no form they are either waves of colour or nothing-no form. Now you are just bones re do it. Your bones will desolify from reality when the sun goes over the horizon. That means there isnt any of that stuff you think you are in, you are not in a solid body when there is no light.

English, please. Lol. OK I hear ya!